I've heard that many growers of the 1016 Daletas have experienced a flat vine. My main vine showed no signs of flatness, but strangely, now some of my secondaries that are 12-15' long, are starting to ribbon. Today I found this mutant male flower, the petals were so large and puffed up I thought at first,it was a female. The stem for this flower is double flat. Seems to have 7 lobes. Does Steve live near a nuke? Mighty strange! kilr