This is my 644 plant it is not as big as the 1230 but is very strong and has almost out grown the 16x20 green house. The vine running out the french doors is a back runner main. The vines are intensly dark green with fairly small leaves. I have several pumpkins that should open over the course of the next few days they are green with very long stems. My over head misting system is a lifesaver as this patch get full sun and is next to the garage (reflected heat).