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BenDB

Key West, FL

Our seed auction will be held THIS SATURDARY, December 4th at 4pm PST. We have changed the order of the seed lots around some and have added an extra lot. We have some new ideas for the auction this year on ways to keep it going fast and ways of bidding that should keep it interesting we hope! Also we want to give more people a chance at some great seeds. So here is the new list and the rules for our auction!


11/30/2004 1:30:03 AM

BenDB

Key West, FL

Opps, accidently hit the enter key there, looks like I hit twice. Oh well.


Anyway, here is the seed list. We're still fine tuning the rules and we will explain some of the new ideas with those once we finalize it all. This is the final seed list though.

Lot 1: First Year Out ½ Tonners—Big Potential! (Reverse Auction Format)

1061 Greer (1023 Vader X 1236 Eaton) 1-1000
1186 Peirce (582 Hester X 780 Kuhn) 1-1000
819.5 Rivard (877 Kline X 846 Calai) 1-1000
960 LaRue (1337 Houghton X 898 Knauss) 1-1000
734.5 Duffy (629.5 Duffy X 1156 Larsen) 1-1000

Lot 2: Beachy’s Babe (Reverse Auction Format)

1097.5 Beachy (845 Bobier X 723 Bobier) 1-1400, 7-1100, 1-1000, 3-900, 2-800

Lot 3: Who’s your Daddy?—845 Bobier (Reverse Auction Format)

1104.5 Hester (898 Knauss X 845 Bobier) 1-1400
1367 Rose (723 Bobier X 845 Bobier) 1-1000
883 Werner (790 Werner X 845 Bobier) 1-1100
1225.4 Jutras (1016 Daletas X 845 Bobier) 2-1000, 1-900, 2-800
1373 Dueck/Papez (805 Pukos X 845 Bobier) 1-1000

Lot 4: The Big and the Beautiful (Reverse Auction Format)

604 Jutras (850 Wallace X 1020 Kuhn) 1-1000, 1-800
1048.6 Companion (810 Dill X 801.5 Stelts) 1-900, 2-800
1076.5 Werner (845 Nesbitt X 980 Kuhn) 4-1000, 1-800
670 Daigle (810 Dill X 1230 Daletas) 1-1100

Lot 5: Show me the Green! (Reverse Auction Format)

980 Razo* ( 895.5 Hester X 771 Stellpflug ) 1-900, 1-700, 1-600
873 LaRue* ( 591 Johnson X Self ) new seed in ‘04
831.5 Wilson* ( 552 Sherwood X Open) new seed in ‘04
646.5 Rivard* ( 1062 Rivard X Self ) new seed in ‘04
748.5 Koch* (895.5 Hester X 900 Lyons) 1-900



11/30/2004 1:34:08 AM

BenDB

Key West, FL

Lot 6: The Hester 1400 Club (M)

1104.5 Hester (898 Knauss X 845 Bobier) 1-1400
582 Hester (940 Mombert X 1026 Holland) 1-1400, 2-1100, 1-1000, 2-900, 4-800

Lot 7: 4 Lovely LaRues (M)

1034.5 LaRue (705 Stelts X 746 LaRue) 1-1100
955 LaRue (708 LaRue X 814 Sherwood) 2-1000, 1-900, 1-800
708 LaRue (705 Stelts X 846 Calai) 1-1000, 3-900
960 LaRue (1337 Houghton X 898 Knauss) 1-1000

Lot 8: 695 Handy—Three Generations (M)

695 Handy (723 Bobier X 545 Handy) 1-1200, 4-1100, 1-1000, 5-900, 4-800
1247 Handy (695 Handy X 801.5 Stelts) 1-1100
1109 LaRue (1247 Handy X 1104.5 Hester) new 2004--what a cross!

Lot 9: Bobier’s Big Beauty?
845 Bobier (935 Lloyd X 865 Mettler) 1-1300, 2-1200, 3-1100, 10-1000, 14-900

Lot 10: PGVG Class of ’03 Big Baby Club (M)

822 Hester (695 Handy X 898 Knauss) 1-1100, 1-900
1180 Daletas (898 Knauss X 846 Calai) 1-1200, 1-900, 1-800
1034.5 LaRue (705 Stelts X 746 LaRue) 1-1100
1247 Handy (695 Handy X 801.5 Stelts) 1-1100

Lot 11: Squashbuckler’s Treasure (M)

895.5 Hester* (900.8 Lyons X Sibbed) 2- 900, 4- 800
772 Golat* (552 Sherwood X Self) new seed in 2004
816 La Rue* (552 Sherwood X 1062 Rivard) new seed in 2004
831.5 Wilson* (552 Sherwood X Open) new seed in 2004

11/30/2004 1:34:51 AM

BenDB

Key West, FL

Lot 12: Daletas Classics (M)

1016 Daletas (705 Stelts X 846 Calai) 2-1200, 2-1100, 1-1000, 8-900, 8-800
961 Daletas (611 Hester X 846 Calai) 1-130, 1-1000, 3-900, 2-800
1230 Daletas (705 Stelts X 846 Calai) 3-1000, 7-900, 2-800
783 Daletas (500 Hebb X 801.5 Stelts) 1-1300, 2-1000, 4-900, 1-800
790 Daletas (879 Holland X 801.5 Stelts) 1-1200, 1-1000, 4-900, 5-800

Lot 13: Grab Bag

977 Kline (1062 Rivard X 1036.5 Kline) 1-1000, 1-800
975 Summers (1038 Emmons X 1005 Mombert) 1-1100, 1-800
845 Nesbitt (846 Calai X 723 Bobier) 1-1000, 5-800

Lot 14: The Sherwood Greens (M)

552 Sherwood* ( 895.5 Hester X Sibbed) 1-900, 1-800, 2-700,
962 Sherwood* ( 552 Sherwood X 703 Smith) 2-600
713 Sherwood* ( 552 Sherwood X Self ) new seed in 2004
677.5 Sherwood* (962 Sherwood X 552 Sherwood) new seed in 2004

Lot 15: First Generation 898 Knauss (M)

960 LaRue (1337 Houghton X 898 Knauss) 1-1000
1180 Daletas (898 Knauss X 846 Calai) 1-1200, 1-900, 1-800
1133 Demers (845 Bobier X 898 Knauss) 1-1100, 1-1000
822 Hester (695 Handy X 898 Knauss) 1-1100, 1-900

Lot 16: Pumpkin Roulette (these seeds can throw orange or green!)

1062 Rivard (914 Wentzell X Self) 3-800, 2-700, 2-600
990 Hebb (616 Corkum X 780 Eaton) 3-900, 1-800, 1-700, 1-600
900.5 Lyons* (724 Willemse X 755 Craven) 1-1000 UOW, 2-900, 3-800, 4-700, 5-600
815 Anderson (697 Ciliberto X 1006 Greer) 4-800, 2-700, 6-600

Lot 17: Who’s your Mama?—845 Bobier

1337 Houghton (845 Bobier X 712.2 Kuhn) 2-900, 2-800
1157 Werner (845 Bobier X 845 Nesbitt) 1-1000
1066 Vezzolo (845 Bobier X Self) 1-1100, 1-900
1030 Armstrong (845 Bobier X 500 Carlson) 1-1000

Lot 18: Babe in Arms (M)

1104.5 Hester (898 Knauss X 845 Bobier) 1-1400
1420.5 LaRue (1104.5 Hester X 1180 Daletas)

Lot 19: Rising Stars on the Green Circuit

962 Sherwood* ( 552 Sherwood X 703 Smith) 2-600
756.8 Kennedy* (895.5 Hester X 990 Hebb) 1-800, 2-700, 2-600
229.5 Hathorn* (821 Garrell X 703 Smith) 1-8

11/30/2004 1:36:31 AM

BenDB

Key West, FL

Lot 20: The Hallowed Handy (M)
695 Handy (723 Bobier X 545 Handy) 1-1200, 4-1100, 1-1000, 5-900, 4-800

Lot 21: Old School

1006 Greer (697 Ciliberto ’94 X 680 Dill ’94)
697 Ciliberto (722 Holland ’92 X 502 Ciliberto ’91)
914 Wentzell (1006 Greer ‘96 X Multiple)
747 Wyckoff (801.5 Stelts ’97 X 636.5 Wyckoff ’97)

Lot 22: The Jack Pack (Seeds from Seven 1000+ LaRue Pumpkins in ’04!) (M)

1420.5 LaRue (1104.5 Hester X 1180 Daletas)
1205 LaRue (1180 Daletas X 708 LaRue)
1160 LaRue (1034.5 LaRue X 1143 Colbert)
1157 LaRue (1133 Demers X 1016 Daletas)
1109 LaRue (1247 Handy X 1104 Hester)
1052 LaRue (708 LaRue X 1104.5 Hester)
1003 LaRue (1373 Dueck/Papez X 1064 LaRue)

Lot 23: New Hampshire’s Pride

712.2 Kuhn (935 Lloyd X 780 Eaton) 1-1100, 3-1000, 4-900, 10-800

Lot 24: Proven Pukos

805 Pukos (1092 Burke X 723 Bobier) 1-1300, 2-1200, 1-1100, 4-1000, 9-900, 11-800
735 Pukos (846 Calai X Self) 3-1100, 2-1000, 4-900, 8-800

Lot 25: PGVG Prolific Progeny Pack (M)
582 Hester (940 Mombert X 1026 Holland) 1-1400, 2-1100, 1-1000, 2-900, 4-800
695 Handy (723 Bobier X 545 Handy) 1-1200, 4-1100, 1-1000, 5-900, 4-800
1016 Daletas (705 Stelts X 846 Calai) 2-1200, 2-1100, 1-1000, 8-900, 8-800
961 Daletas (611 Hester X 846 Calai) 1-1300, 1-1000, 3-900, 2-800

11/30/2004 1:36:58 AM

BenDB

Key West, FL

Lot 26: PGVG 1100, 1200, 1300, 1400 . . . (M)

1104.5 Hester (898 Knauss X 845 Bobier) 1-1400
1247 Handy (695 Handy X 801.5 Stelts) 1-1100
1385 Daletas (783 Daletas X 898 Knauss) 1-800
1420.5 LaRue (1104.5 Hester X 1180 Daletas) new 2004

Lot 27: Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder

869.5 Calai (846 Calai X 801.5 Stelts) 1-1000, 3-900, 3-800
834 Gadberry* (895.5 Hester X Self) 1-800

Lot 28: One Large and Lonely 805 (M)

805 Pukos (1092 Burke X 723 Bobier) 1-1300, 2-1200, 1-1100, 4-1000, 9-900, 11-800

Lot 29: Meet the Wallace’s (Two 2003 seeds—awesome first year out!)

500 Wallace (898 Knauss X 845 Bobier) 1-1100, 1-1000
1068 Wallace (845 Bobier X 898 Knauss) 1-1200, 1-900

Lot 30: The Holy Grail

723 Bobier (935 Lloyd X 865 Mettler) 2-1300, 2-1200, 8-1100, 17-1000, 12-900, 16-800

11/30/2004 1:37:05 AM

BenDB

Key West, FL

Please keep checking back here or on the main page for the explaination of the reverse auction and rules. We also have multiple seeds available for almost half the lots!

11/30/2004 3:32:05 AM

steelydave

Webster, NY

Lot's of good stuff there. What's a reverse auction format?

Dave

11/30/2004 6:03:10 AM

Tremor

[email protected]

Or is it *Reserve* ??

11/30/2004 6:48:44 AM

Brigitte

i like the creative lot names. fun stuff.

11/30/2004 10:49:14 AM

BenDB

Key West, FL

It's reverse, what it's going to be is we will start at say 400 for the 1097, and we will count down the price until someone says stop. The person who says stop gets the seed. It should be a lot of fun.

11/30/2004 12:04:41 PM

Jake Byrd

Belgium

So you would get the 1097 for $1 if noone said stop unil then?

11/30/2004 12:28:37 PM

BenDB

Key West, FL

If no one said stop until $1, and you said stop then, you would get it. You gotta wonder when someone else is gonna say stop though....... It should be pretty exciting for those wanting those seeds.

11/30/2004 2:25:38 PM

gordon

Utah

ruthless !

11/30/2004 3:32:04 PM

Mr.D&Me

Hayes, Virginia

Ok STOP now on lot #9!!!
getting ready...

Sounds FUN!!!

11/30/2004 3:46:27 PM

BrianInOregon

Eugene, OR

Some of those lots makes me wish I wasn't broke, especially that Daletas Classic lot! I take it M means you have more than one of the same lot?

Awesome job on the lot names...and what a lineup!

11/30/2004 5:39:41 PM

BenDB

Key West, FL

Yes, M means multiples are available.

Mike Golat put the list and rules together for this. He did do an awesome job.

11/30/2004 7:20:34 PM

BenDB

Key West, FL

Ok guys, here's what we could come up with. We're trying some new things this year. I guess we'll see how they work.

Thank you for supporting the Pacific Giant Vegetable Growers. Thanks especially to those who donated seeds to the auction and to Ken and John at Bigpumpkins.com for hosting the auction. All money raised from the auction will be used to support club activities. We are going to make every attempt to keep this auction moving! To facilitate an efficient auction, the following guidelines are provided.

1.    Please keep chatter not related to the bidding to a minimum.
2.    If you bid on a lot, please state your name with your bid (stating your name will not be necessary in the reverse auction format as described below).
3.    If you win a bid please email Jack Larue at [email protected] immediately to confirm your bid.
4.    Seeds will be sent when payments are received. Send payments to:
Pacific Giant Vegetable Growers
P.O. Box 1194
Mulino, Oregon 97042
5.    There will be two distinct auction formats—traditional and reverse. Lots 1 – 5 will be in the reverse auction format. Lots 6 – 30 will be traditional. In a reverse auction the auctioneer designates a starting point for the bid and lowers the bid until someone says STOP (all the reverse auctions will start at $300). The person that stops the auction wins the lot.
6.    There are 30 lots, and there will be multiples offered of several of the lots (lots 6,7,8,10,11,12,14,15,18,20,22,25,26,28). In the multiple lots there will be three lots total offered. The winner of the auction will have the opportunity to buy all of the lots or just one. The second highest bidder is obligated to buy one lot if one remains at their highest bid, and may buy all remaining if there are more than one. Likewise, the third highest bidder is obligated to buy the third lot if it has not been sold.

12/3/2004 1:19:22 AM

BenDB

Key West, FL

An example of this format: (thanks to Nic for the example)

Bids:

Jack L.     $150
Steve D.    $320
Brett H. $325 . . . SOLD!

Lot X is sold to Brett Hester for $325
Brett takes one lot

The second highest bid was $320 by Steve Daletas
Steve buys the second set, and opts to take the
remaining set as well.

The end result is that Brett pays $325 for 1 each Lot X
and Steve pays $640 for two each Lot X

If Steve hadn't taken both lots, the third high bid
of $150 by Jack LaRue would have given Jack a
purchase of Lot X for $150


7.    Please check the lots posted on BP.Com and print them out just before the auction to keep track. The list has changed since first being posted so please print it out just previous to the beginning of the auction.
8.    For more information or to comment, contact Mike Golat at [email protected]

12/3/2004 1:20:15 AM

BenDB

Key West, FL

Hope to see you all there!

12/3/2004 1:20:36 AM

BR

Litchfield N. H. 03052

A reverse auction format is not in the best interest of the bidders,only thr sellers. It can cause the spending of $50 to $100 more for a lot. Not more fun, more expense.

12/3/2004 8:59:34 AM

CEIS

In the shade - PDX, OR

In the reverse how low do you dare to go?
How bad do you want the seed?


Remember this auction is to raise funds for the club.

IMHO this is a good cause & a good option for those who have the means & really want that particular seed.

12/3/2004 2:02:25 PM

BenDB

Key West, FL

I guess on the reverse auction you're gonna have to have a set price in mind, and if you want it really bad, when it starts getting close to that price, are you willing to grab it for that few bucks more? It should make things go fast, and with 30 lots, we're going to need to go as fast as we can.

12/3/2004 4:09:24 PM

Thomas

Okla

How fair will a reverse auction be to everyone? What if someone with a slower connection puts his bid in first but a person with a fast connection bids later. Which one do you think will get it? Just a thought, not trying to slam anything.
Thomas

12/3/2004 6:41:43 PM

Stan

Puyallup, WA

If you have a weak heart and a thin wallet or a slow connection......then online auctions are not for you.

12/3/2004 9:10:32 PM

Tremor

[email protected]

T-1......Awesome
Cable....Great
DSL......OK
Phone....Good luck

12/3/2004 9:26:01 PM

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