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I want to keep 2 of my plants through the winter, and I would sure like to hear about the do's and don't on the subject.
Like what type of soil, size of pots etc.
The 2 plants I would like to keep alive are the 920 Cole and the 723 Bobier

Thanks in advance.
Eddy

8/28/2004 2:01:03 PM

Cologne / Germany

Hi Eddy, look at my diary from entry June 21 and following. It worked.

8/28/2004 6:35:59 PM

Colorado Hail, CO. Elev. 5,900 FT

Springs, Colorado
Keeping a clone {cutting} alive is easy, sort of...

Root a vine tip in a long narrow pot outdoors {3 weeks before expected frost}, by mixing systematic insecticide in the rooting medium and spraying the plant for disease first. Then cut two "U" shaped grooves into both sides of the long & narrow pot for the incomming vine to root into some deep soil initially without having to bend it down over the pot edge. The other side is cut out for the outgoing vine.

Bury your plant vine into this pot with the tip barely left sticking out of the cut out pot groove. Let it then grow until you have 2-3 side shoots emerging from the leaf nodes. Then cut the main vine off at the 3rd leaf past the pot. This will allow you to keep the inital plant smaller, and allow it plenty of time to root in the pot.

Once the side shoots start to reach out and attempt to run, it is then time to cut the clone away from the original plant at the groove where it goes into the pot. Move the plant to an area where it doesn't get any direct sunlight for a couple days so it doesn't get stressed and die off. It is normal to loose a leaf or two, sometimes all the sun leaves will wilt and die. Don't freak out, as the plant is simply diverting its energy into the new shoots, and they shouldn't be affected.

8/28/2004 11:08:39 PM

Colorado Hail, CO. Elev. 5,900 FT

DO NOT OVERWATER!!!! Moist soil is key! Too much and the cutting will never root, or if it did root initally, it will die of root rot! At this point, your new "clone" is ready to bring indoors.

Keep it growing from pot to pot under a shop light with 2 40 watt cool white bulbs, or in a bay window where it will get the full winter sunlight. You will need a bigger window or more lights if you keep more than one clone going. One 4 foot shop light keeps one clone going perfectly with 2 pots side by side at all times. You can add another shop light also if you wish to allow the cutting to grow longer a little bit to make sure it is rooted long enough each time your ready to cut it away from the host pot. I suggest this to those newer at this, as it sucks to cut away a clone too soon and see it die after keeping it alive for a while.

I Hope this info helps make things simple and easy to do. I've had plenty of winters to get down a nice and simple process, and I don't have any failures anymore {unless I simply forget about them}. I started messing around with this method back in 1997, first trying to root vine tips with rooting hormones before finding this to be the easiest method. Mike, I can answer any question you might have on this subject, if you can catch me.... sorry...gotta run back to the laboratory...

Madman Marc

8/28/2004 11:08:54 PM

Colorado Hail, CO. Elev. 5,900 FT

Hope thats what you need, Eddie Z !
So you liked that 920 Cole, huh? I grew the 695 Hoomis, a 567 Wallace self also. A very unique genetic! My plant likes to get leaf burn, and has the fattest vines I ever have seen! I doubt leaf burn is due to too much N, the others grow next to it and are fine. Only have a 14 day old fruit on it, so not sure what to make of it yet. I took a cutting off it and put it in my patch here at home and not much change noticed {yet} in growth characteristics.
I'm interested in your notes....

8/28/2004 11:18:04 PM

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Thanks Floh and Marc. I have started the process and I'll keep you posted. The 920 Cole is producing a beatiful Orange almost like the 801.5 Stelts. I did not self it though and I'd like to do that next year.
The 723 Bobier, is acting as if each leaf node is the main stump. It seems to be sending a tap root at each node. I never seen this before, so I'd like to see if I can grow it again next year, and I did the 723 X self on the back main, sitting at about 250lbs right now and lots of time to keep it going. I have the 723 in a green house, but heating costs would be too much to keep it growing in the greenhouse all winter. But I will keep it heated until at least November.

Thanks again

Eddy

8/29/2004 2:44:03 PM

Colorado Hail, CO. Elev. 5,900 FT

Eddie;
You should see what my 567 Wallace selfed plant does {695 Hoomis}... sends 3 roots off each node... THREE...

8/30/2004 12:50:58 AM

No Place Special

wow... Three??!!!! Cool!

8/30/2004 10:43:09 PM

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We're strinking cuttings here in CT of some "hard to obtain genetics". I let some get too established & they jumped their pots in less than a week. Just for kicks, I chopped a 705 off cold on both end & dragged it out patch. After 2 minutes in the blistering sun, the leaves were as limp as overcooked noodles. We dragged the pot into the shade & misted it (all for fun since 3 others are also started). After another 30 minutes, the poor thing was trying to recover. So I brought it home, stuck it in the shade (away from the patch for PM sanitation), misted & watered more thoroughly, & now have the shortest 2 leaf cutting I ever took. Tall proud & healthy too.

Heck, given the right weather, pruned tertiary vines will root & grow well right on top of the compost pile.

These things are amazing.

8/31/2004 7:01:08 AM