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And how is it doing?

We started one of my son's last year's school pumpkins whose seeds we distributed to the entire student body & faculty. Stephen really felt a sense of obligation to grow it especially after our prodding people into at least trying their best with them.

Well ours turned out flat. We kept it growing & it doubled. Then it split. So we chose the "new main" & clipped the other.

Pause for weeks of uneventful nothing. Until now......

The fool thing has exploded in a flurry of growth & added 8 feet of main in the past week. That main is still more flat than round. And where 2 leaves should appear, there is one normal leaf on one side & 2 smaller ones on the other.

We have nothing to lose by leaving it do it's thing. But has anyone an idea what that might be?

There are no sets on it yet & we're not concerned about finished weights. If this plant does produce fruit, we'll enjoy it on our porch come Halloween.

7/19/2004 8:18:40 PM

New Hampshire

I have kept my 1016 and 1458. I turned a side vine into a main and you wouldn't know the difference. It will be interesting to se what happens in the end.

7/19/2004 9:14:09 PM

Eugene,OR

My 1230 Daletas was a flat vine. I did some surgery and now it is a sweet plant!

7/19/2004 11:28:47 PM

Enumclaw WA

I kept a flat vine last year and got many many aborts; however, I did get a couple 200+ so who knows.

7/19/2004 11:42:54 PM

Ohio

Tremor, I kept a double vine(900 Wentzell). I let it grow double for about 5 feet then cut both mains off and used a secondary as my main. Its growing real nice now, I have 3 females on side vines getting ready to open any day now and its growing normal. The first 5 feet look funky though with that thick double vine.Right now that plant is 12 feet in lenght.

7/20/2004 4:53:53 AM

Connecticut, USA

I did. Good thing too or I would have nothing. Last Saturday I had to rip out my 712 Kuhn plant. Lost it to a disease. I will have to post the pictures to get some help ID'ing it. My other plant, the 1225 Jutras, flat vined on me. It is growing vigorously but all of the pollinations on the "flat vine" aborted. I have two going on secondaries on this plant. The secondaries are normal vines.

7/20/2004 6:50:05 AM

Northeast

I kept mine still going aftyer surgery, Im not sure if I will get anything good off this plant the fruit is going slowwwwwwwwwwww, I need to inspect the main for a crack where it was a double vine that I had buried after my last spray for SVBorers. Dave

7/20/2004 7:20:43 AM

Long Island,New York

Well, its not exactly answering your question but I had a double on my 1260 last year that split naturally into a double (a) and a single(b) then the double split to two singles (c) and (d). It ended up a 400sqft plant with a 475 on vine(c) and a 345 on vine (d). Vine (b)and vine (d) were grown as secondaries, vine (c) had a couple secondaries off it and sort of grown like a main in what little space was left.

7/20/2004 7:46:09 AM

Appalachian Mtns.

Kept the 1260 Weir and 572 Andrews...doubles and flats. Surgery fixed the 1260, Andrews is a freak but fun to watch.

7/20/2004 8:45:14 AM

Rexburg, Idaho

My 1016 was also a flat that I cut the main and trained a secondary as a new main. So far so good.

7/20/2004 8:50:40 AM

Western NY

820 Werner went flat for me. surgery failed, and the main snapped under the pressure anyway, so i cut it clean at the break (about 10 ft.). I have one set on a secondary, and if i get something to 300# on the plant i will be happy, but i've focused attention to more important plants. the other 820 that i started and gave away flat vined for the grower also. his split into a single and a double. double was cut, and kept the normal vine. plant looked good last i saw it.

7/20/2004 10:51:38 AM

Burt NY

I had a plant last year let it grow no secondary vines lost of flowers but nothing grew at all. had a plant go that way this year pulled it out put in buckwheat.

7/20/2004 2:10:24 PM

red bluff, california, usa

My 942.5 Swarts plant has flat vined (2" high x 1" wide & about 12 ft long), all the leaves have thickened/fuzzy edges (up to a 1/4" thk) & the females started getting smaller, cardboard like flowers (very thk & hard). the last female the flower didn't even cover the nodes. I have 3 pumpkins, 1 on main about 20 lb at day 20,1 on mains secondary about 60 lb at day 25 & 1 on secondary about 50 lb at day 21. just letting it go to see what it does

7/20/2004 3:04:54 PM

Roselle, IL [email protected]

The 582 that went flat, now has 3 pumpkins on secondary vines that will be over 60" on day 20

7/20/2004 4:02:47 PM

Wisconsin

Kept my 1016 and 1385. Had successful surgery on both. The 1385 is the best plant in the patch.

7/20/2004 6:39:53 PM

Ri

steve i had a double+ last year on an 803 davies it split and i was able to grow out a 569 pollinated on july 19. ken i happen to be growing the 1225 also and got a double on a secondary about 8 feet out. peter

7/20/2004 8:27:43 PM

Cologne / Germany

Had a nice looking 417 on a split flat main vine (the second part was culled) 2 years ago. But I don´t expect any good results if the flat main vine will not split.

BTW I have the 1260 Weir for the second time this season and it´s a pretty normal and healthy plant for me, no signs of mutations. I did a cutting to keep these traits (hopefully) for next year - maybe "healthy" cuttings can breed out mutations in the future.

7/20/2004 8:40:36 PM

Sequim, WA

I've kept the764 Mombert flat vine plant. I terminated the main and trained the last secondary as a main. I did attempt the set a female on the main just short of the terminated end with no luck. I do have fruit set on secondaries and the new main looks good. I had to trim off a lot of double, triple and quad secondaries that were coming out of the doube and triple leaf axils. Other than the main the rest of the plant very normal looking and quite vigorous. I should get some nicely colored fruit of decent size from the secondaries, but don't expect anything competative from this plant.

7/21/2004 12:32:40 AM

Sequim, WA

Oops! that's a 774 Mombert. stupid fingers

7/21/2004 12:36:07 AM

nanaimo,B.C,Canada

Growing the 842 eaton which had a double vine and split into 2 at 4 feet,but nothing seems to grow fast. Looks like this plant won't produce anything big.

Dave

7/21/2004 1:36:50 AM

Sequim, WA

I could also mention my 613 Michalec produced a double vine at about 8' out on the main. The south fork, since it was slightly shorter was removed and the plant continued to grow normally. It has a number of nice fruit set on it and culling will begin shortly.

7/21/2004 12:45:37 PM