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Folks who know me well also know that the easiest way to get my skin crawling is to refer to any part of a Pumpkin plant as a "STUMP".

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Webster's 1913 Dictionary

n. 1. The part of a tree or plant remaining in the earth after the stem or trunk is cut off; the stub.

2. The part of a limb or other body remaining after a part is amputated or destroyed; a fixed or rooted remnant; a stub; as, the stump of a leg, a finger, a tooth, or a broom.

3. The legs; as, to stir one's stumps.

4. (Cricket) One of the three pointed rods stuck in the ground to form a wicket and support the bails.

5. A short, thick roll of leather or paper, cut to a point, or any similar implement, used to rub down the lines of a crayon or pencil drawing, in shading it, or for shading drawings by producing tints and gradations from crayon, etc., in powder.

6. A pin in a tumbler lock which forms an obstruction to throwing the bolt, except when the gates of the tumblers are properly arranged, as by the key; a fence; also, a pin or projection in a lock to form a guide for a movable piece.Leg stump (Cricket) the stump nearest to the batsman.

Off stump (Cricket) the stump farthest from the batsman.

Stump tracery (Arch.) a term used to describe late German Gothic tracery, in which the molded bar seems to pass through itself in its convolutions, and is then cut off short, so that a section of the molding is seen at the end of each similar stump.

To go on the stump to engage in making public addresses for electioneering purposes; - a phrase derived from the practice of using a stump for a speaker's platform in newly-settled districts. Hence also the phrases stump orator, stump speaker, stump speech, stump oratory, etc.
on the stump campaigning for public office; running for election to office.

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6/13/2004 12:35:22 PM

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In my opinion, the correct botanical term for the area to which we speak is:

"BASAL CROWN"

Basal =

WordNet Dictionary
Adj. 1. basal - especially of leaves; located at the base of a plant or stem; especially arising directly from the root or rootstock or a root-like stem; "basal placentation"; "radical leaves"
Synonyms: radical
2. basal - serving as or forming a base; "the painter applied a base coat followed by two finishing coats"
Synonyms: base
3. basal - of primary importance; "basic truths"
Synonyms: basic, primary


Crown = A crown is a region of compressed stem tissue from which new shoots are produced, generally found near the surface of the soil. Crowns (strawberries, dandelions, African violets) are compressed stems having leaves and flowers on short internodes.
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I am certianly NOT the final authority on this or any other pumpkin matter. But being degreed in the plant sciences (particulary aboriculture), I have more than a little authority to refrain from using terms that would suggest our discusion of tree parts. Especially those terms normally referring to DEAD parts of a tree.

Thoughts, criticisms, etc????



Steve

6/13/2004 12:35:36 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

The "crown" I shall call it then!

6/13/2004 12:46:50 PM

Colorado Hail, CO. Elev. 5,900 FT

I can only add that when informing other growers on key techniques I've discovered and used during my years of cloning AG's, the one question most everyone constantly asks me, is

" Well, only seed started plants can produce STUMPS, right?"

And the answer is no. Only trees can. LMAOFROLOL! They will however, form the following:
"BASAL CROWN"

Basal =

WordNet Dictionary
Adj. 1. basal - especially of leaves; located at the base of a plant or stem; especially arising directly from the root or rootstock or a root-like stem; "basal placentation"; "radical leaves"
Synonyms: radical
2. basal - serving as or forming a base; "the painter applied a base coat followed by two finishing coats"
Synonyms: base
3. basal - of primary importance; "basic truths"
Synonyms: basic, primary


Crown = A crown is a region of compressed stem tissue from which new shoots are produced, generally found near the surface of the soil. Crowns (strawberries, dandelions, African violets) are compressed stems having leaves and flowers on short internodes.


Man, why is everyone nitt picking on slang horticulture terminology...LMAO!!!

6/13/2004 12:48:16 PM

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Because while we're waiting for females to open, all we have to do is complain. How many times can a person weed the patch in a day?

6/13/2004 1:55:35 PM

New Brunswick

Tremor...until I get down my mulch and stop the weeds..everyday weeding ought to do it...LOL Then too, there is the watering and in my area putting the blasted plastic back in place, that is constantly coming undone. We had frost Wednesday night and winds that would blow every black fly into the next county...at least that is what I think must have happened. Before the frost and high winds, those blasted black flies were everywhere. Today, not a one...(knock on wood)

6/13/2004 4:51:41 PM

North Ga

(n. 1. The part of a tree or plant remaining in the earth after the stem or trunk is cut off). So it's a crown until you sever the vine. Then it's a stump? So the crown could be considered a pre-stump. Or the stump may be post crown? Holy Moley!!! Only in America!!! LMAO

6/13/2004 5:18:27 PM

Long Island,New York

Why do we refer to it as that?....I don't know....you got me stumped........G

6/13/2004 6:10:30 PM

Utah

... days late and $$$ short but here are some other names we it:
the base of the plant.
or main vine base.
or the stem base.
but I vote for just plain old ...
base.

6/17/2004 2:43:39 PM