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Indiana

Well, since at least 2 people have gotten seeds swiped by customs this year. However small it is, maybe it would be easiest to include a note to customs with something to the effect of:

Dear US customs,
If this package is inspected, and its contents are deemed in violation, rather than destroying them, please return them to sender.

Might just save that 845 that gets opened up.....no idea how effective this would be, but thought I would post it.

Tom Beachy

1/22/2004 10:01:34 PM

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Can't hurt. And its painless.

But why can't we get some valid leadership on this? There must still be a legal way to send seeds that folks can live with. I'll phone my buddy & ask him today.

If I had an 845 lost this way, I would file a loss claim in small claims court for the average amount of the last three auction sales.

I asked my local post office (informally) if we needed more than the standard declaration as I sent seeds to Germany & Belgium. He siad "no" & they arrived OK. If different standards exist for seed coming into the States exists, we need to find out how to comply.


Steve

1/23/2004 5:51:01 AM

Menomonie, WI ([email protected])

If you do that isn't that admitting you know what you are doing is wrong. I believe the fine for this is $1000. No field crop seeds that don't have a phyto certificate is what they are saying at the web site for aphix. That note could be good evidence in a court case as an admission to guilt. Shannon

1/23/2004 11:19:43 AM

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http://www.aphis.usda.gov/lpa/pubs/fsheet_faq_notice/fs_phnursery.html

1/23/2004 12:13:26 PM

Ontario, Canada.

Steve, Pumpkin seeds are not controlled going into Canada.
They can still be shipped or mailed freely without concern. This is a sad day for all growers. It is so costly to comply that practically no pumpkin seed will be export from Canada into the USA by hobbyist growers. Centralized trading and selling will be handled by only the seed houses and Howard Dill. They can afford the certiication costs which will be a minimum of $700.00cdn annually.

1/23/2004 4:25:59 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

Many ways around it Russ...no need to panic and predict doomsday on AG growers.
There's a way around most anything.

1/23/2004 5:09:11 PM

Ontario, Canada.

Kyle this sucks. I just sent some out last week!
This becomes a seggregated sport now. Unless we all become law breakers. You got your US growers, Canadian growers and International growers. Never can they trade freely and legally with each other. This is a shame.

1/23/2004 5:29:31 PM

Farmington, Utah

Does this phytocertificate apply to all seeds coming into the US from international growers or just Canada

1/23/2004 5:41:26 PM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

Certificate would apply to all international growers. After all they are just pumpkins seeds and not softwood lumber.

What happened to free trade?

1/23/2004 5:51:04 PM

Ontario, Canada.

Tom, the seeds will be destroyed. There is no ambiquity as I see it. IMHO.

1/23/2004 5:51:41 PM