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Streator ,Illinois

Has anyone used this stuff before, has the same make up of scimitar cs
Thanks Gene

1/21/2004 10:51:20 PM

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Demand CS (Capsulated Suspension) is Lambda-cyhalothrin, which is the same active ingredient & formulation as Scimitar CS. It was originally formulated for interior Pest Control. The labels of all LC products continue to expand & overlap with an eventual goal of reducing the number of offerings to 1 or 2. (Political/legal reasons for introducing many - like throwing poop against a wall with registration issues)

There is absolutely no difference in performance between this & Scimitar.

Warrior is an EC or oil base & does behave a little differently.

I'll be meeting with the manufacturer's rep today. Nice guy.

Steve

1/22/2004 5:28:43 AM

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According to Lee Koszey (41 year industry veteran & friend) there is absolutely no difference in efficacy regardless of which Lambda-cyhalothrin formulation we use. The ones I know of are:

Battle
Scimitar
Warrior
Demand

Despite my feelings about the cheaper EC formulations, Lee swears they're only still available because some farmers are stuck in a rut & resist any form of change. So the EC & SC versions are 100% equals in percent insects controlled according to Syngenta & third party testing.

Maybe I've got a little "old school" in me now. Yikes!

Go ahead & use whichever formulation you're comfortable with. Though all of the SC's are safer for people & plants than the EC.

Steve

1/22/2004 2:29:01 PM

Joliet, IL

thanx steve...my svb fears may soon be over.
doyourownpestcontrol.com has demand cs available for online purchases.
shazzy

1/22/2004 3:46:39 PM

Streator ,Illinois

Tremor,
YOU DA MAN, Thanks for the answer.

Gene

1/22/2004 8:43:02 PM

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Battle
Warrior
Scimitar
Suspend
Demand

I forgot Suspend before. I believe the first SC's (enCapulated Suspensions) were formulated in water based suspensions to prevent staining of interior surfaces by interior Pest Control Operators. My creating these "Microemulsions", the active ingredients molecules were made so fine the would quickly adhere to & cause mortality to insects on contact, even if they weren't feeding. But these ultra fine molecules were also subject to rapid degradation by sunlight. Now the are micro-encapsulated. The "covers" explode when contacted by insects, releasing the insecticide molecules & causing death.

This is the same idea as encapsulated slow release fertilizers. Where a soluble fertilizer element is made to resist release until a sulfur, wax, &/or polymer resin coating is degraded by water. Same idea, but on a much smaller scale.

1/22/2004 9:53:09 PM

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Spelling alert. Typing too fast & way tired.

1/22/2004 9:54:05 PM