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Subject: 2000lbs how possible
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| MR. T. (team T) |
Nova Scotia
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i beleive we shall bet the 2000lbs mark in the future based on a growth break down i did. for i've seen several pumpkins from 800-1200lbs do over 40lbs a day based on this, whitters must have done at lest a few 50lbs day's. so if by day 10 we have 100lbs then the next 5 day's 25lbs per day, the next 30 day's 50lbs, the next 5 day's 35lbs, the last 10days 10lbs. there you have a 2000lbs pumpkin in 60 day's if you don't think this is possible then consider that some pumpkins grow well over 60 day's. so who thinks this is possible?
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12/19/2003 3:55:57 PM
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| BenDB |
Key West, FL
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Pumpkins here grow over 90 plus days.
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12/19/2003 4:37:18 PM
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| Joze (Joe Ailts) |
Deer Park, WI
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ah yes, ye olde one ton pumper speculation. Your math is good Mr. T, however I'd probably stretch it out to an 80 day growing period to relieve some pressure. Yes, on a chronological scale i do believe this is feasable. The only rub I see is on a plant physiologics scale. Can a fruit survive those types of growth rates for an extended period of time? 50lbs a day at ~day 30...thats over 20' OTT per day!! I'd crap my pants, then look for the tear, hole, or rip in the fruit. SO were dipping into the subject of skin/wall elasticity potentials. Yikes!
However, 1458 is 3/4 of the way there. Not bad at all! Perhaps the genes in these babies are able to withstand growth rates that high. Time will definately tell, as we continue to increase our top weights every year.
Personal opinion, yeah, i think it could happen. Just gotta give it 5-10 years.
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12/19/2003 4:42:08 PM
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| owen o |
Knopp, Germany
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My vote for quote of the year!!@!@!! "I'd crap my pants, then look for the tear, hole, or rip in the fruit"
you go Joze, please bring more, it is a long winter.........
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12/19/2003 5:17:30 PM
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| mudflap |
Spanish Ontario
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HI T TALKED TO MR DILL last march at niagria an said 1500 would be in 2 years he agreed 2000 will be in 5 to 10 year S, growin NORTHERN ONTARIO ha ha maybe KEN
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12/19/2003 5:46:28 PM
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| Boehnke |
Itzetown City
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That may cost a lot of milk. LOL
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12/19/2003 6:52:14 PM
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| Gads |
Deer Park WA
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I'd crap my pants too Joze!
Seriously I think to drag a sound 2000 lbr out of the patch it will require ott along with thick walls to support the beasts weight. I believe the genetics are floating around out there they just need to be isolated and refined by combining size with thick walls.
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12/19/2003 7:18:34 PM
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| Tom B |
Indiana
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it isnt gonna take that long. 5 years max
Tom
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12/19/2003 9:40:07 PM
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| southern |
Appalachian Mtns.
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Hey Joe, forgot to e-mail you this cross proposition....(f) 851 Handy '00* X (m)620 Kuhn '00
Breed the "heavy" ones boys, not necessarily the biggest....that's the future.
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12/19/2003 9:59:38 PM
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| BenDB |
Key West, FL
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If you get a pumpkins growing that fast, you know the walls of the fruit have got to be thin!! If you can get them to "measure" 2000, it's gonna be HARD for that thing to weigh to the chart at all. This is my oppinion anyway. 2000 is probably in the future but it's gonna be hard to get there. Lots of luck.
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12/19/2003 10:08:19 PM
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| MR. T. (team T) |
Nova Scotia
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ben my 900lbs only taped out to 844lbs and it put on 42 lbs a day for 3 day's. so i think ones that grow fast can go heavey.
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12/20/2003 8:25:13 AM
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| Steveman |
colorado
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if someone gets a 1334 lb estimate pumpkin and it goes 50% heavy it can happen!!! I don't know if there is any seed out there that can go that heavy at that big of size, but it could be a bigger fruit like 1700 lbs. and not have to go as heavy... It will be fun to see happen!
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12/20/2003 9:35:34 AM
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| mark p |
Roanoke Il
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1600 lbs next year 2000lbs in bye 2009
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12/20/2003 10:44:51 AM
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| Brigitte |
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i'm goin with gad's and ben on this one. need thick walls if it's gonna grow that fast. and size as well (duh). only makes sense. i'm thinking...let's see...next year is 2004...ya by 2008 or 2010 maybe.
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12/20/2003 11:56:07 AM
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| hey you |
Greencastle, PA
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Larry Checkon projected that we would hit the one ton mark by the year 2012. I agree with Tom though, the rate at which pumpkins are getting larger is increasing exponentially. Mr. Checkon alsp projected that we would be at 1376 this year, and the current record is 1385, 9 pounds more, and a 1458 UOW. I think we could have a 2000lber by 2007, but it depends on the pliability of pumpkin walls, weather, soil, and several other factors. tom
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12/21/2003 12:45:22 AM
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| Cheese Wiz |
San Luis Obispo Ca
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No problem! I will grow in bathtub this Winter.
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12/21/2003 5:47:17 PM
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| jammerama |
Stouffville
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combining size with thick walls i think reduces to finding a seed that will produce a smooth fruit with no ribs and dill rings(the size part, i love the looks of the 1385 and the 1301.5)... and as for thick walls...thick walls aren't the key if the shape is right, however you need a fruit that wants to make 40+lbs/day (of actual weight, that's such a ridiculous growth rate from what I've personally experienced) a consistent and CONTINUOUS event. One without the other will lead to something other than 2000lbs, the 1458 had phenomenal growth, but developed structural problems. Thick walls will make structural issues less of a problem, so although not key, thick walls are always desired, especially on weigh-off day if you want to smile instead of frown!!!!
I was surprised at the growth of the Perez 1036 in the diaries this past summer, it was on the right track til it stopped suddenly and started getting ribbier and hints of the ring. Who named the bloody trait 'Dill Ring' anyway?!?!
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12/21/2003 6:18:44 PM
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