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Stouffville

Didn't think too much of this fruit til i saw the average growth rate which made me notice that it was pollinated on 7/16 and harvested on 9/5 with minimal care apparently...is this a case for the importance of genetics or what?

12/18/2003 7:04:26 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

The 741 AE is a hot seed, it's gonna do *real* well, just watch.

12/18/2003 10:10:57 PM

Hudsonville, Michigan ([email protected])

My personal feeling is that Al's got enough backcrosses in it that it could be purified enough to be an ideal candidate for a great 'vigor' cross with strong unrelated stock...
Frank

12/19/2003 6:01:46 AM

Ontario, Canada.

Jammer, Al passed a note to me about the 741 a while back. He likes it more than any other of his crosses.

12/19/2003 7:00:21 AM

Greencastle, PA

what were the parents? I've been trying to get some good seeds together to do some hybrid vigor experiments over the next coupke of years, I'd love to know what Al used for the 741.
tom

12/19/2003 10:00:04 PM

Applegate, Oregon

The 741 eaton is a 1236 Eaton x 842 Eaton, just the opposite cross of his 1301.

12/20/2003 1:47:29 AM

No Place Special

I hear so much about the 741 but wonder what makes it more desireable than the 1301/ same cross from the same parents?

12/20/2003 1:01:52 PM

Stouffville

I wouldn't say it's more desirable than the 1301, since I currently think that the father and mother influence the offspring equally and it's luck of the draw as to what traits you get. Though perhaps it may be easier to obtain, since more people would have heard about his 1301 than the 741 and unless you know the details of the 741 you'd want the 1301. Has anybody been able to link the expression of certain traits to one side more than the other? Although I don't know the details about how the 741 was grown, it seems that it was not COMPETITIVELY grown (ie small plant, no soil prep, no fertilizer) by Al yet it still reached a decent size very quickly. Although if it was grown in a corner of his patch which had received years of soil prep, just none last year, the soil would still be damn good.

Back to traits...I'm wondering why the 946.5 Mettler has been so undergrown at least according to AGGC. It's the reverse cross of the 705 Stelts. The pollinator 801.5 of the 946.5 grew a 819 that weighed heavy, and the 946.5 was extremely heavy, measuring just 818.

I think it's cool how the 1301.4 Whittier looks much like 846 offspring which was the pollinator of the 961 Daletas. It even has white stripes in the ribs, but that's also a typical squash characteristic. The 1301.4 looks nothing like 611 Hester offspring which tend to be pale and flat. The 1301.4 Whittier looks so impressive, the height is unbelievable in the pics, must have been a sight to see for real. Anyone know what the height of it was?

Mike

12/21/2003 11:05:19 AM