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Roselle, IL [email protected]

What has been done for weigh-off payment structure for growers weighing multiple fruits? We have payed prize money to growers and one additional fruit per family in the past. GPC rules state One pumpkin per fixed residence. This now clouds the waters a bit because we are a GPC Site. How many weigh-offs let growers claim multiple prize money per event? I know GPC does not pay money out per site. We raised all the prize money- How do other sites break it down per grower?
Thanks

9/2/2007 7:14:24 PM

Rhode Island

george
gpc sites may structure there own payout schedules. your club/site rules for membership and weigh off stipulations are your business.
however- one pumpkin per grower can be submitted for any gpc awards - be it top ten average-individual awards-

in other words you run your prize schedule as you wish. its your club and your money. you just must adhear to our rules for soundness of fruit, judging,submission to our records keeping, etc,etc.

also anyone showing up must be allowed to weigh their pumpkin so long as your rules for membership to your club/site are met.

should a grower show up with a true green squash
and a pumpkin both would be entered into recognition in the gpc because its two different catagories of fruit

pap

9/2/2007 8:16:00 PM

Roselle, IL [email protected]

Thanks for responding pap. Lets now say grower "A" grows first place at your weigh-off 1503 lbs he also brings a 1400lber that claims second place. Is he entitled at your weigh-off to claim 1st and second place prize money? With these two pumpkins, At this weigh-off, do they qualify for top GPC rankings?

9/2/2007 9:43:46 PM

addison Il

I like the new rules it gives everyone a chance at the prize money and I think we should follow the GPC rules as far as prize money goes.Why join a The GPC if we are not going to follow there rules and If we do not follow there rules then what was the point of joining.I think by following the rules as far as One winner per household is a great Idea and allows for more growers to win some mula.We all pay a membership for a chance to win some prize money so i think we should not bend on the rules.

9/2/2007 10:02:41 PM

Addison IL.

Why join the GPC if we are gonna bend rules.It states one pumpkin per fixed address is eligable for prize money.Sure other family member can get a ribbon. But let's stick with the rules of Gpc.

9/2/2007 10:22:57 PM

[email protected]

No one is bending the rules. We have structured the GPC rules to allow for any weigh-off or club's rules as they stand. But the GPC prizes are only considered for ONE fruit per household. What Pap is describing is not a bending of the rules.

9/3/2007 12:48:53 AM

George, like Pap and Tremor said, you can structure your club's prize schedule according to your own discretion. Something to maybe think about is, what are you seeking in the competition?

I think what we look for in our weigh-off is each individual grower’s best effort for that particular weigh-off. We want to compete head-to-head, with each grower putting forth their best effort in each category.

That said, there are some years when one grower in an area has a particularly outstanding season. Say someone in a club grows four fruits all weighing over 1400 pounds. Let’s say that the next guy or gal down grows only one plant but manages a 1399 pound fruit. So what happens when grower A brings all his fruits, and grower B brings his or her 1399 pounder, and all are eligible for prize money? Grower A cleans up and leaves grower B with a fifth place payout for a 1399 pound fruit.

Were I grower B, I would be a bit discouraged about bringing my best fruit to the weigh-off, because I know grower A is going to take all the top prizes anyhow. So I think it sort of discourages competition and everyone putting their best foot forward.

Our club limits each GROWER (and there can be multiple growers in a household), to one prize per eligible category. I think this is the best set-up for competition. Other fruits may be weighed, but are ineligible for placement or prizes. So in the above scenario, what does this do? Grower A still gets official weights on all those huge fruits (and the associated bragging rights), but grower B now gets second place and the associated prize money, and reward, for putting forth their best effort.

I think this is the best way to set things up, but again, that is the beauty of the new GPC rules. You can set it up according to your best judgment, in a way that is most beneficial to your club members as a whole.

Best of luck in the coming month, and, “grow ‘em big!”

-nilbert

9/3/2007 1:19:13 AM

Roselle, IL [email protected]

I want to give grower "B" a shot. Nobody is bending any rules. I like the one pumpkin per fixed residence that the GPC states.- This is for GPC prize $. Not club money. Right now our existing club rules are not written this way

9/3/2007 9:48:51 AM

Menomonie, WI ([email protected])

OK this rule make sense only if the grower is allowing a pumpkin of his to be weighed by a family member. There are many growing partners out there such as the Checkon's, Larue's, Brunst's that grow there own fruit.

9/3/2007 2:42:50 PM

[email protected]

The full rules are posted here at BP as well as our GPC website.

GPC rules don't supercede existing club or site rules. The weigh-off that my club founded was new so we adopted the GPC rules because it was easier than writing our own plus we are a GPC site. If we didn't agree with the GPC rules we wouldn't have joined. LOL

That said, older sites that are already have rules aren't required to change them just because they join the GPC.

All the GPC is saying is that to qualify for GPC prizes, the monies paid by the GPC (which is above & beyond the weigh-off prizes) will go on based on GPC rules. Prizes award by the weigh-off whether the same rules or not, are seperate.

9/3/2007 7:09:41 PM

Rhode Island

george
growers dont bring multiple pumpkins to our weigh off. we only pay out prize money and position of final standings for one pumpkin per grower.
most of ous with a second third or fourth pumpkin go to different gpc weigh off sites and compete
pap

9/3/2007 7:41:43 PM

Rhode Island

george
also something to think about is that if you pay out two or three places to the same grower? id guess the following year a lot of those other growers would be at a differet weigh off site. its just not fair to everyone involved
pap

9/3/2007 7:46:54 PM

Roselle, IL [email protected]

We only have one weigh-off site in the state. We will explore adding an additional site next year. We don't have the luxury of multiple sites near by. This is the main reason growers bring multiple pumpkins

9/3/2007 8:37:53 PM

Rhode Island

i can see that george but to be fair to all competitors the gpc opinion would be one pumpkin one grower.
if for example because there were no other sites in the area a person brought say four pumpkins?
then pay them for the heaviest by order of finish and the rest call them exibition only would be my suggestion.

9/4/2007 5:40:13 AM

Simi valley, ca

So one pumpkin per household means if your wife growes pumpkins too- you eather have to pic yours or hers to enter in a weighoff & cant compeat against each other! We would never be able to bolth be in compatition in a single yr- as its almost 400 miles to main weighoffs , My little weighoff thats close to me is seaming more fun all the time !!

9/5/2007 7:14:16 PM