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San Diego, Ca.

I just entered in my diary a couple pictures of a problem I am having with my 670 Daigle. They should be posted after a while. Can someone please help identify what might be wrong .
The plant is 7 weeks old and the main vine is only slightly more than about 3ft. long. I have a backup plant roughly 5 feet away from the 670 that does not show any problems like what the 670 is showing. More details included in my diary post. Please help!!!

6/8/2007 2:24:00 PM

Ohio

Check your nitrogen levels, tell you the truth Vince, they really dont look that bad to me, seems like for me the younger leaves start out a lighter color and then green up more as they get older(if thats what your talking about). Is what your talking about the leaf is a lighter yellowish color Vince?

Brooks

6/8/2007 5:29:41 PM

San Diego, Ca.

Yes Brooks, the veins of the leaves on the newer growth are much greener than the rest of the leaf. I have noticed this same thing on my other plants but it is much more pronounced on the 670 for whatever reason. To tell you the truth I don't think the plant looks bad at all but why would it just stop growing? Does this happpen occasionally to some plants and if so what do you do? Can you do something to get it to grow again?
I am going out of town for a day but please, if you have suggestions post them here. I'll get back with everyone on Sunday. Thanks!

6/8/2007 5:53:32 PM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

Vince, keep it going. I read here somewhere else (I think from pap) that plants do sometimes appear to not be growing and then will take off and grow like mad over a few week period.

Don't do anything differant and I would bet that the plant will begin to take off again.

My 670 layed down nicely and started to vine, then got taken out by a squirrel. It has sprouted a new main and is now growing great again after stalling our for a couple of weeks after the attack.

Don't forget our side bet "smallest pumpkin on a proven plant"

6/8/2007 6:42:12 PM

San Diego

I was just at vince's patch today and as a 7 year seasoned grower, his plant isn't normal. The pictures don't do the leaves justice. All the vines are curled up and stopped growing and all new leaves looks bad with discolor. It isn't mosaic for sure. It has to be a deficiency of some kind with the entire plant coming to zero growth for the last 2 weeks. It's definitely weird for sure. Vince's dirt is very fluffy and porous, so my only guess is he got leached out of something. We nailed it with some 20-20-20 today to see if it jumps the plant and cures the symptoms. I'm usually an organic all the way guy, but this will give us an idea if their is a deficiency. Any other ideas are appreciated. Vince has poured out his heart for 4 years in terrible soil conditions trying to get things to work, he deserves better. Jimmy

6/8/2007 8:03:00 PM

San Diego

ps, vince's second plant a few feet away is much younger, leaves look better but we discovered a few abnormalities on it too. Parts of the flowers were turning yellow and looked abnormal and the vines coming out around the stump area are stunted and not growing. I'm guessing as the plant gets bigger it will show more problems too, all point to soil deficiency in my opinion.

6/8/2007 8:11:25 PM

what your describing Vince is interveinal chlorosis... I don't remember what toxicity or deficiency causes it thought... I'd check in my notes from Soil Fertility class but I don't have them with me, do some looking online.

6/8/2007 10:01:37 PM

Ohio

Duster, Vince, best thing to do, and to do it right away is a soil test or plant tissue test, stops the guessing game and will get that plant rolling again, quickest I have done a test and received test back was 4 days, I over nighted my soil and they sent results back to my email, cost me less then 40 bucks I think, wish I could be of more help.

6/9/2007 11:15:50 PM

San Diego, Ca.

Hey Glenn, I'm gonna win this bet. The only pumpkin on the plant is up in the head of the main and its the size of a BB. At this point I can't see it getting much bigger ;-)

Brig, with all the poking around I did trying to find out whats wrong I agree with what you said...interveinal chlorosis best describes what I see. Only problem with interveinal chlorosis is that there are so many variables that cause it. If its a micro then it sounds like Fe, Mn or Zn. As Jim said above, I hit the plant with a 20-20-20 that also has Fe, Mn and Zn included. Its only been 2 days and I haven't seen much difference yet.
Brooks, now that I hit the plant with fertilzer I think the only way to go now is with a tissue test.

6/10/2007 6:46:45 PM