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Indiana

Just wondered if anyone had any info on side vine fruit that made it over 1000 lbs? We have about 8 plants that wouldnt set on the main, and so all we have is side vine fruit. Trying to decide on if they are worth weeding or if we should just roundup them and not worry if the plant dies or not.

Tom

7/26/2005 8:52:27 PM

Indiana

For that matter, how many over 1000 have been grown on side vines?

7/26/2005 8:53:43 PM

canal winchester ohio

Might not be a lot of info cause no one gives them a chance. If it's the only fruit on the plant I say go for it. What's the worse that can happen, some 800 lb'rs you can sell.

7/26/2005 8:56:03 PM

Topsfield, Ma.

I'm betting heavily on side vine fruit this season, cuz all main vine fruit aborted on one plant! Let's set some new records this year for side vine pumpkins...LOL

7/26/2005 9:06:36 PM

San Jose [email protected]

what the heck is a side vine?, secondary?

7/26/2005 9:31:41 PM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

While not quite 1000, Jake van Kooten grew a 958 lb on a side vine and the main vine fruit went 1142 in 2004.

7/26/2005 10:06:33 PM

Applegate, Oregon

1016 Daletas

7/27/2005 1:20:37 AM

Key West, FL

that was grown on a back main dale.

7/27/2005 2:02:23 AM

Applegate, Oregon

Maybe I am wrong about the 1016? The AGGC lists it as 13 feet on the primary main. Wasn't the 1230 grown on the same plant? It is also listed at 15ft on the primary main. I have no idea what the heck I am talkin' 'bout....shutting up.

7/27/2005 2:02:34 AM

Knopp, Germany

back main? we need to simplify the terms. i believe that a plant has one main and then secondaries off it. i understand what you are calling a back main, but i just view it as one of the first secondaries that just happens to be very thick. i train it just like any other secondary.

7/27/2005 3:26:09 AM

Picton,ON ([email protected])

The AGGC lists 6 pumpkins grown on "Secondary Main's" and 2 grown on secondary vines over 1000 lbs. I wonder how many pumpkins grown on secondaries never made it to weigh off because there were bigger ones in the patch?

7/27/2005 8:50:41 AM

Cologne / Germany

Dito Owen. I have no idea what a "back main" should be else than a first secondary.

7/27/2005 11:44:11 AM

Western NY

on only a few occasions, i've had a secondary thrown the exact opposite direction of the main. I have never ever had them grow as strong as the main vine, warranting the name "back main". I suppose "secondary main" whould be more technically correct, but i'm with owen's opinion on this one. only a double main vine that splits into 2 singles would be considered to have 2 mains, and i've only seen that in 2 plants ever.

7/27/2005 1:41:44 PM

Western NY

oh - and to answer the question - my biggest one last year (704.5) was on a side vine. the main vine fruit split at 513#.

7/27/2005 1:59:44 PM

Cornelius, Oregon

Wasn't Hollands 1049ish pounder grown on the end of a secondary on a 705 Stelts plant?

7/27/2005 4:37:11 PM

C N Y

how about a clarifying term i could use on my
plant stakes/labels:

back secondary, abbreviated as "bac. sec."

there is ONLY ONE MAIN, and all others are secondaries and beyond that are tertiaries.

so, a backward-growing secondary can not be a "main"
by any stretch, if the true main vine is in existence.
do we have TWO Presidents? not that i recall.
all others are vice presidents, or, there is only one of those also, lol.

the problem with terminology will arise when the secondaries grow off of the back sec;
we'll have to call THOSE ones "back terts", lol!

anyway....just call the backward-growing (1st strong)
secondary just what it is, a
BACK(ward-growing) SEC(ondary).

my personal best for a secondary-based fruit was 632.5,
on the 845 Bobier. it outgrew the main vine fruit of
421 estimated pounds, pollinated the same day as the
632.5-to-be was. enuf outta me for the moment-----eric

7/28/2005 1:23:17 PM

Cologne / Germany

A backward growing first secondary main vine? :-)
Some of you guys seem to have far too much space in the patch. I´m lucky to keep all growth in front of the stump LOL

7/28/2005 3:50:04 PM

C N Y

yeah, gone are the days when i used to let an unruly
vine get going good behind the stump, where the
next plant had not yet filled in yet...
see, my plants are such that the tip of one will eventually
make contact with the stump of the next....
40 feet away...eric

7/28/2005 5:52:24 PM