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In a way this is kinda funny, Last year this time i was fighting off cuke beetles, this year ive only seen 2 in the garden all year, Well Monday while i was out weeding the patch I saw this "new to me" bug, it was kinda large and flew around like a wasp. it was red kinda neat looking bug, I watched it as it bounched from leaf to leaf around the 2 main patch plants thing looked harmless and never thought much of it. well Tuesday same thing but there was a few of them. Wednesday I never saw anything. Yesterday afternoon, I was out there in the patch and there was 4 of these things that appeared they were eatting at my leafs. well I come inside and look on the computer to find out they are SVB'S.. well youve never seen a white man run so fast for the garage to grab the sevin and head into the patch spraying away like a mad man.

For some reason I thought an SVB was much smaller and more brownish it colour. well now that ive seen them and know what they look like they have been taken care of. From what Ive read they lay their eggs around the stump of the plant or along the vine and under the leafs, I inspected the plants today and saw nothing. I guess the eggs take upwards of 7-10 days to hatch so i guess an application of
sevin will be done on a weekly basis. Would you suggest
switching bug killers , like one week use sevin the other week use Bug-B-Gone or what not ? or does it matter

Thanks
Dave

7/8/2005 11:51:35 PM

Thornhill, Ontario, Canada

Dave, check out this discussion in the "Pest, diseases" board: http://www.bigpumpkins.com/MsgBoard/ViewThread.asp?b=6&p=123520

I noticed a reddish "wasp" the other day too. Come to think of it, it did seem to be flying underneath a leaf when I saw it. And, right after I had sprayed Sevin. Apparently, Sevin isn't very effective against SVBs. But, some of the people in the discussion suggest alternative pesticides.

7/9/2005 12:35:49 AM

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Sevin will not touch SVBs, it will only handle the cuke beetles and squashbugs. To rid yourself of the SVB's you have to get Warrior T or something inthat line. Do a search onthe site about and put in SVB and Warrior T, you will get some ideas.

7/9/2005 7:07:00 AM

Montoursville, PA

Two ways to get those eggs. Mash 'em or use a summer oil spray to smother them.

My approach is to use Neem Oil and smother the eggs. Neem Oil needs, to be applied weekly, so you get two shots at those eggs. If you add up to two tabelspoons of baking soda per gallon of spray the early prevent for the milldews will be in place. It is not to early to start. Conditions in Northcentral Pennsylvania are just about right, for the milldews to appear.

If in the process you get the oil, on most insects it will be toast. I think harsher spray may be needed to terminate SVB when you are faced with them in the adult stages. I have not had SVB so the oil, on the insect, has not been proven or disproven by me.

7/9/2005 7:15:43 AM

Commack, NY

Dave, if you saw that many SVB's floating around, and your'e only using sevin, im willing to bet just about anything that you have eggs on your plants. they are very small, like a pencil point, and are a copper/brown color. they lay them one at a time, anywhere they can. top of leaves, underside of leaves, leaf stalks, vines, stumps. theres no where they wont lay them. Sevin does absolutely nothing to protect, control, or rid the patch of svb's and their eggs.

7/9/2005 8:09:09 AM

Massachusetts

on and under fruit...... has happened to me twice. good luck

7/9/2005 1:56:59 PM

Canada

Thanks for the input, Ya I saw another one in the patch this mourning, man are those suckers hard to kill, i hit it with the hose sprayer and that little bugger kept moveing, well it didnt live past my foot. ya i inspected pretty much all of my plants and didnt see any eggs, I'm going to go out today and see what i can find for a spray.

also do the adults feed on the plants or are they just around to lay eggs?

thanks
Dave

7/9/2005 2:02:30 PM

Picton,ON ([email protected])

Dave
Ambush is your best bet unless you have a pesticide licience. If you Can't find any, drop me a line directly.
We got to protect that 721.5.
John

7/9/2005 6:04:58 PM

Canada

John, I Picked up some Ambush this afternoon at Rona
After killing a few by Hand and Foot today I didnt see any more, My biggest worrie now is the possibility of eggs
being laid on my plants or around my plants. I'm getting up at 5am before the sun comes out to give my entire patch along with the 721.5 side house plant a dose of ambush.
and then will continue on with Ambush on a weekly basis
as from what ive read once the SVB'S lay there eggs they take upwards of 7-10 days to hatch and I guess you want to get them eggs before they start borrowing.

ONLY thing that has me worried is the possability of burning the plant. tomouro is going to be in the HIGH 90's
i'll be mixing it in my sprayer and spraying it on all the plants as per instructions the sun doesnt hit my patch or side house plants till around 8am so i plan on spraying them around 5-5.30am while its still dark out so they have a chance to dry before the sun starts blazing down on them

Thanks everyone

Dave

7/9/2005 10:29:43 PM

Okla

You do know that if there are wild bees around your plants when you spray in the morning time it will kill them! Lot of growers spray just before dark or right after dark and that gives the plants plenty of time to be good and dry before the sun hits the chemicals and can cause harm to them.
Reason I say what I did about the bees is there are some farmers who depend on bees for there crops each year.

7/9/2005 10:38:06 PM

So. Maine

Dave , keep a fly swatter with you when you are checking out the plants, it works pretty good when the SVB lands on a leaf, then wack em. You may lose a leaf in the process but you'll feel much better after you smack em.

Al

7/9/2005 11:02:00 PM

Picton,ON ([email protected])

Dave
Thomas is correct, you should try to spray in the evening if possible. Ambush is extreamly toxic to bees. I have sprayed in the AM, if I just couldn't get it done any other time. The 5:00 Am thing is good from this perspective. Ambush is not as residual as Warrior so keep a look out at the one week mark.

7/10/2005 8:04:22 AM