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I'm fishing for actual data from those who have experienced this situation.

We have 2 845 Bobiers just breaking soil.

Seed #1 took 12 days to germinate (Hydrogen Peroxide 3%) & had 5 rootlets reather than a single radicle.

Seed #2 germinated in 24 hours & had a conventional single radicle. GA3 (1000PPM) was used to coax it up.

Both were held in baggies at 85*F during germination then tranfered to a soiless mix.

Before we discount Seed #1 as inferior, it is worth noting that while they both germinated on the same day, #1 is screaming out of its pot while #2 is growing at a normal predictable pace.

I have recently read where 2 experienced growers have had very good results growing these multi-rooted freaks. Has anyone else experienced this result?

This also brings about another question. Has anyone had BAD results growing the club-footed mutant?

Thanks in Advance,

Steve

5/8/2005 11:18:01 AM

San Diego

I had one club footed rooting plant I tried to grow. Actually, I didn't even know it was club rooter until I dug it up. It started to wilt real bad even on 70 degree days with sun when it had 4 true leaves. Got worse and worse, so I dug it up, had a big ball of small club roots. Jimmy

5/8/2005 12:55:21 PM

Manchester,N.H.

I am in the same situation with 2 582 Hesters. The first one took forever so I started a backup and then they both germinated one with the club root and the other with one really fat tap root.The one with the club root is growing much faster than the normal one.I plan to plant the one with the club root.

5/8/2005 1:09:50 PM

Eugene,OR

It has been my experience that "club root" plants produce ribbon vines later. I had a 963 Stucker last year that I stuck with because I really liked the genetics and ended up starting another one in late May. I'd start a back-up.

5/8/2005 2:05:06 PM

ontario

I have several.....nothing wrong with more roots.........

5/8/2005 2:50:08 PM

New York

Steve- As Joe P can tell you, I've had many. Only one I actually planted was a 723 in 2003. Joe germinated it for me. After others had germinated, we decided to dig it up since it didn't pop. It was the same as you describe...a root ball with 5 or 6 roots coming off it in all different directions...looked terrible. I just threw it back on top of the soil and went on with the others. The next day (as it was drying out)I said "what the heck" and put it back in the soil near the surface...you will notice these seeds don't grow much of a stem and need a little help getting sun. To make a long story short, this seed grew to 1029 pounds. I would say at the very least give it a shot based on it's genetic background...845's aren't a dime a dozen. The plant was weak until the 3rd or 4th true leaf. After that (other than being perhaps a week behind) it grew at the same pace as the others without problems.

5/8/2005 2:52:29 PM

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I don't know Alan.....I had my heart set on a 1447....1029 would come about 420 lbs short......I'll go toss it on the dirt. LOL

2 YES
2 NO
1 TRYING

Didn't Steve Davies have his best fruit on a club root last year?

5/8/2005 3:15:36 PM

Ohio

Steve, thats the same thing my 1097 is doing right now,a bunch of spider roots, no main root,NO stem what so ever,roots practicaly start right where the cots begin.

Brooks

5/8/2005 7:25:33 PM

Mastic Beach, New York

my 1068 wallace(#1) has a club root ,took alot longer to germinate too, so i started another still waiting on #2 to show signs of life,..now #1 has a very short stem with alot of roots...and i dont see a true leaf yet either so it's taking a back seat under the grow light..

5/8/2005 8:30:11 PM

canal winchester ohio

I've never had a seedling with a club root, this year I had 3 out of 5 seeds with a club root......weird ?????

5/8/2005 8:59:25 PM

Leicester, NY

Steve,
Definitely don’t give up on that little club buddy just yet. After watching Alan’s plant go on to produce the 1029, I’m a firm believer of giving those little mutated plants a chance to survive. The way it’s screaming out of the pot, maybe it’s giving you a hint there’s some 1447 potential locked up in there!

5/8/2005 9:36:26 PM

huntsburg,ohio

Steve my 845 did that last year ended up with the 1135 on it that was picked at beginning of september on it.Jerry

5/9/2005 8:08:56 AM

Halifax, Nova Scotia

OK, how long before the first post requesting seeds with a tendency to start clubbed roots?

5/9/2005 9:32:23 AM

Western NY

I can only remember growing out one plant from a club root. It was slow to start, but turned into a normal plant. Grew a 351, which was pretty decent for the spot i put it in. i think i have one club root so far this year, out of probably 25 seeds so far. i'm not sure on it, though, i'll have to check it later.

5/9/2005 10:04:12 AM

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Another 36 hours & "clubby" is 6-7 times larger than the "regular" 845 that germinated in 24 hours. It might have been slow getting out of the shell, but the multi-rooted seedling is more than making up for lost time now.

Thanks for all the input so far. Private emails & phone calls all seem to confirm that the majority of multi-rooted seedlings perform slow yet steady feats of greatness for those growers who are willing to endure their slower starts.

I'm beginning to wonder if Duster's club-root wasn't really a case of root knot nematodes or some other mallady.

5/9/2005 9:05:28 PM

C N Y

club-a dub-dub. gee, now i am HOPING to see a "club root".
oops, too late, everything i am growing now is up.
well, there ARE two more i've yet to see come up.
there's a chaaaaaance! lol------"clubby",,,
oh, man,.....
i'm a clubby chaser, lol!

5/11/2005 6:30:37 PM