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Jericho Vermont

I have found locally a Bayer product for trees and shrubs with 1.47% Imidacloprid and am not sure if this will work like the product Admire which I can't find here in VT. It is in a liquid form and can be sprayed on the patch. I know admire is 21%. Can I just use the equivalent of this product to control SVBs. Thanks for your help. John

2/27/2005 12:14:35 PM

C N Y

depends on what is in it otherwise that makes it only for trees and shrubs---like, you wouldn't use a screwdriver to
get an eyelash out of your eye; you'd use your finger!
but, if a screwdriver would work without damaging anything,
i don't SEE why not. maybe throw down a product name or
specifications, inert ingredients, etc........eric

3/2/2005 6:18:18 PM

San Diego, Ca.

John, I was also looking at Bayer's Tree and Shrub spray wondering if anyone had used it with success.
I believe (just guessing) the reason vegetables are not listed as one of the uses for this spray is that it is a systemic poison that would make vegetables unfit for consumption. I wouldn't want to eat something sprayed with this stuff on it!
Maybe Steve (Tremor) could enlighten us on this spray.

3/2/2005 10:34:33 PM

Danville, CA ([email protected])

The Imidacloprid is the same in several products. There is a good post here that shows what strength to use with the various products. For T&S it seems that 5.5 to 8 oz per 1000 works best. The other ingredients are surfactants and other things that should have no impact.

None of the "other" ingredients should be an issue. I think it is unlisted as it is a T&S formula. Admire has the same active ingredient and you can use it on just about any vegetable per read of the label, beans, tomato, squash, carrots, cucumbers, etc.

5/28/2006 3:26:42 AM

Danville, CA ([email protected])

Found it, here is the summary


First the Flowable liquid formulations:

Bayer Tree & Shrub*........1.47% Imidacloprid 233-350oz/acre
Bayer Merit 2F*...........21.40% Imidacloprid 16-24oz/acre
Bayer Admire 2F...........21.40% Imidacloprid 16-24oz/acre
Bayer Provado 1.6F*.......17.40% Imidacloprid 20-30oz/acre

Now the various Wettable Powder formulations:

Merit 75WP*...............75.00% Imidacloprid 6.4-8.6 oz/acre
Merit 75WSP*..............75.00% Imidacloprid 6.4-8.6 oz/acre
Provado Solupak*..........75.00% Imidacloprid 6.4-8.6 oz/acre

So........

Bayer T&S.....................5.35-8 oz per 1000 square feet
Merit 2F...................10.3-15.4 ml per 1000 square feet
Admire 2F..................10.3-15.4 ml per 1000 square feet
Provado 1.6F...............12.8-19.3 ml per 1000 square feet
Merit 75WP & 75WSP..3-4 level teaspoons per 1000 square feet
Provado Solupak.....3-4 level teaspoons per 1000 square feet

5/28/2006 3:27:20 AM