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Like in a previous post on the 801.5 Stelts. Has the 935 ever been duplicated and if not why?

eddy

1/13/2005 9:38:37 PM

Indiana

875 lloyd dont germinate

1/14/2005 12:13:32 AM

Northeast

How close is a 909 Loyd x sib to the 935 Tom?

1/14/2005 7:36:26 AM

Appalachian Mtns.

650 Lloyd is very close....a sibb basically

1/14/2005 8:16:22 AM

Ljubljana, Slovenia

I may be ignorant but what does SIB mean? Thanks for explanation.. Jernej

1/14/2005 9:32:51 AM

Menomonie, WI ([email protected])

Jernej a Sib is when you have two plants of the same seed growing. Then cross them back into each other. So it would be a 801.5 x sib if you crossed your two 801.5 plants. Basically the same as a self except with genetics of a different plant of the same seed.

1/14/2005 10:01:01 AM

French River,P.E.Island, Canada

pollinated with the male flower from another plant "of the same seed"...... I believe......

1/14/2005 10:02:21 AM

Indiana

as far as I am concerned 909 x sibb is the exact same cross. 875 and 909 were on same plant and have the same cross on them. Just like the 1230 and 1016 Daletas. If you really want a remake of the 935, the best your going to do is 909.5 x sibb. You got some of those dont you Dave?

Tom

1/14/2005 11:10:55 AM

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The 875 and 909 are the same cross from the same pumpkin.
OK so then the 909 X 909 sib is the same cross.
Now how about a 909 x self.
Tom have you tried to germinate the 875.

Eddy

1/14/2005 3:42:51 PM

Northeast

I did the 909.5 lloyd x sib, the 875 wouldnt germinate all 6-10 of them. Dave

1/14/2005 4:15:13 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

The 650 Lloyd '99 is the (880 Lloyd '97 x 935 Lloyd '97).
The 880 is the same cross as the 935 and, unless George was mistaken in what he told me, they were both grown on the same plant. If George was mistaken, then they grew (2) sets of 875 and 909.5 Lloyd plants that year, so the 880 and 935 would be siblings.
In either case, they're both the same cross, and then crossed together.
Pretty isolated genetics there, and I not only selfed (2) fruit off my 650, but I also pollinated one with the 659 McCallum '00 (1092 Burke x self)=(935 x self x self)...so there again are fairly well-isolated genetics, just need a few years of selfing.

1/14/2005 7:25:33 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

BTW...I know that didn't help on your question Eddy, but I felt like rambling about the 650, I love that seed!

1/14/2005 7:26:17 PM

Ljubljana, Slovenia

Thanks for the explanation..

1/15/2005 7:31:44 AM

Eugene,OR

There is a909 Lloyd and an 865 Mettler available in tonight's auction...too bad they aren't in the same lot.

1/15/2005 9:48:07 AM