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To all the growers I have traded or exchanged seeds with. I would like to inform you the seeds have arrived in Wisconsin and will be mailed out to all ASAP
In order to deal with the Phyto certificate I sent all State side seeds together. The package was inspected by US customs and released(Relief)to be delivered to the addressee.
So they are on their way.
Also 60 + envelopes for the price of 1 Pyto. pretty good deal.
Also I would also like to wish a very Merry Christmas and a Heavy and Scale Breaking New Year to all in Pumpkin Land

Eddy

12/19/2004 4:43:52 PM

Cologne / Germany

Would be great to know what that stupid phyto cert is and where foreign growers can get it to get their seeds a safe trip from all over the world to the US :)

12/19/2004 7:44:22 PM

Ontario, Canada.

Floh, On January 22, 2002, the United States implemented new seed import requirements which specified that all propagative seed shipments entering the US must have a phytosanitary certificate.

Try this link. I know it does not help your situation
but it can give you some info.

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/corpaffr/newcom/2002/20021223e.shtml

12/19/2004 7:58:55 PM

Cologne / Germany

Thank you Russ. Doesn´t the world have other problems than seeds being mailed by individual growers to other growers in different countries?
Since no other country apart from the US has requirements like this, it looks some executives there just need something to disport.

12/19/2004 8:19:05 PM

[email protected]

floh
Canada also has the same laws, the only difference is Canada has a hobby exclusion. Which means seeds under a pound are exempt.
I have had correspondance with the US dept. of Agriculture on this matter and, off the record the Hobby clause will be implemented by the US as it is in Canada by june of 2006.
That is still a year and a half away.
The forms must come from the country, which is sending the seeds. So if you live in Germany, you need to contact the Germany Dept. of Agriculture and ask for a Pyto Certificate
It really isn't that bad of a deal.
If you would like anymore info, email me and I'll help all I can

Eddy

12/19/2004 8:44:15 PM

Long Island,New York

Yeah Flo...we get it with every post you make...you think the usa sucks....easy man.

12/19/2004 9:00:44 PM

Minnesota([email protected])

Eddy,
How much did the phyto cost you?
I think it's great the way you planned it, so your 60+ envelopes could be inspected all at once. Maybe others outside the U.S. can do the same next year.

Doug

12/19/2004 9:41:44 PM

[email protected]

The pyto certificate was $7.00 and .35 cents GST
The inspection cost was $5.00
The Total cost is $12.35
I can make an Appointment and wait for the inspection and paper work (approx 40 minutes)or I can leave them and pick them up the next day.
You can take in as many envelopes as you like. But you have to send them all to the Address in The US. So I made arrangements with Joe Ailts and he will mail them out for me.
When they check over the seeds, they are looking for fungal contaminates. So only a visual inspection is done
Eddy

12/19/2004 9:51:53 PM

[email protected]

Sorry should have proof read:
Must be sent to one address in the U.S.
I took all envelopes, sealed them and addressed them if they weren't pre addressed and even stamped them with American postage if I had and put them into one box and sent them to Joe
Eddy

12/19/2004 9:55:08 PM

Ottawa, Ohio

LIpumpkin,

I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels that way. (Floh)

I hate regulations but I also know of problems that happen without them.

12/19/2004 11:09:57 PM

[email protected]

FLoh, G, and all,

Restrictions stink, but so did the twin towers going down, so does the thought of biological terrorism, so does government buildings being evacuated by the scare that something came in the mail. The "executives" in the US who make these laws dont just sit around and say "Who can I screw with today". They act on stuff like Phyto certificates because they want to protect a new strain of something (viral or bacterial) from entering US soil.

There, I just wanted to defend the "good ol U. S. of A.". Now we will resume you to our regular scheduled broadcast.

12/19/2004 11:15:12 PM

Cornwall UK.(50N 5W)300ft.

In the E.U. we have an allowance of 5 packets of seed "from a respectable source" otherwise the same rules apply.

12/20/2004 3:42:51 AM

Cornwall UK.(50N 5W)300ft.

P.S. Thanks for the seeds Eddy those 723 crosses look like really strong seed.

Mark

12/20/2004 3:49:12 AM

Itzetown City

Mark, I think it´s in the eyes of the beholder. I got a "truckload of seeds" from Eric and they arrived without complains. I also sent seeds last month to Georgia without phyt.Cert and without customs declaration and they arrived.
Some one told me "Write >For Exhibition only< on the packed, that should work".

12/20/2004 4:15:55 AM

Cologne / Germany

If my comment sounded like bashing, I apologize. It´s just about the same what many other growers discussed here concerning the phyt.cert. in early 2004. I talked to a neighbour working for the local agriculture authorities and he told me they would probably not give out any papers for unknown individual seeds and that knowbody ever asked for something like this before.

12/20/2004 6:43:29 AM

[email protected]

While the Phytosanitary certificate might sound like a custome tailored bother designed just to bother us, there are an awful lot of good reasons to not only adhere to the rules but also look forward to them.

The most desirable & important native tree in North America was the American Chestnut. We imported both the fungus that killed them & the beetle that vectored the fungus.

The second most desirable was The American Elm before the imported bark beetles began spreading the imported Dutch Elm Disease.

We're losing the battle with the Emerald Ash Borer as I type.

Did anyone else know that the native Northmerican Cockroach lives only outdoors & helps to decay fallen leaves & trees into humus rich soil?

That Rats never existed in the Americas before we brought them here in ships?


Take a look at this list of pests.

Emerald Ash Borer
Dutch Elm Disease
Asian Long Horned Borer
Noway Roof Rat
Hemlock Wooly Adelgid
Brown Longhorned Spruce Beetle
Gypsy Moth Catepillar
German Cockroach
Larch Case Borer
Japanese Beetle
Asiatic Garden Beetle
Oriental Garden Beetle
European Chafer
Northern Masked Chafer
Mediterranean Fruit Fly
White Pine Blister Rust
Butternut Canker
Sudden Oak Death
Beech Bark Disease
Balsam Wolly Adelgid
Red & Golden Haired Pine Bark Beetles
Eurasian Nun Moth
European Spruce Beetle
European Oak Bark Beetle
White Pine Weevil
Common Pine Shoot Beetle
Chestnut Blight
Phytophthora Root Rot
Dogwood Anthracnose
Ambrosia Beetles
Citrus Longhorned Beetle
Woodwasp
Banded Elm Barkbeetle
Imported Willow Leaf Beetle
Pine Pitch Canker

The entire lost is about a hundred times longer than this. But the point is easy enough to understand for anyone who can read. Don't get me started on the list of imported invasive weeds & shellfish.

12/20/2004 7:10:27 AM

Www.extremepumpkinstore.com

Very nice Tremor!
I lived in Eupope for enough years to have seen many other aspects that "executivres" paid way too much attention to..
Atleast Floh is consistant, always negetive towards the US.

12/20/2004 7:36:36 AM

Long Island,New York

I have no problem with requiring a phyto cert and I am a proud American...my post was a comment on certain seemingly nasty remarks...

12/20/2004 4:08:35 PM

[email protected]

YIKES! This proud American just had 2 seeds from Jake Van Kooten destroyed by APHIS. sigh How ironic is that?

12/20/2004 5:33:48 PM

ENGLAND

I was rather peeved at the new restrictions enforced on the mailing of Seeds to the USA and i did some research and contacted the relavent authorities in the USA to find out the exact stance that was taken over this issue. I can now fully undersatnd the restrictions put in place due to any potential spread of diseases from outside of the USA. Here is a copy of the Email i received as a result of my enquiry.

In a message dated 29/11/2004 20:31:33 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes:

[email protected]

Dear Applicant:

This is in reply to your inquire November 29, 2004 concerning a permit for the importation of Curcubita spp. (Pumpkin) seeds from England for planting. We are pleased to inform you that our Agency does not require a permit for the importation of these seeds for planting from various countries.

However, all plant materials must be declared, identified, and available for inspection at the U.S. port of arrival. Imported plant materials are released if they are found to be free from exotic pests, disease, noxious weeds, soil and other prohibited matter. Additionally, at the time of entry into the United Stated, the materials must be accompanied by a phytosanitary certificate issued by the plant protection service of the country of origin.

If you have further questions, please call me at (301) 734-4306 or 1(877) 770-5990 then press 7.

Sincerely,
Bonita Y. Davis
[email protected]
Regulatory Permit Specialist
Biological Technical Services
Plant Protection & Quarantine

12/21/2004 5:39:37 AM

Appalachian Mtns.

Good info Mike, nice to save to disk as a reference tool.
Thank you.
Kyle

12/21/2004 5:48:19 AM