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I just caught the last half of this on the news this morning before leaving for work that a guy has a Giant worm farm factory and has come up with selling worm poop in a liquid, said it will be in K-mart,and Homedepot real soon. Anyone have the full details on this? Is there a similar product out like this already that i dont know about?

Brooks

Brooks

12/16/2004 7:50:59 PM

Oz

I caught the tail of the news on it.
AMERICAN dream on it wat to being filled!

12/16/2004 8:09:39 PM

Oz

its way

12/16/2004 8:09:55 PM

Montoursville, PA

Has to be cast tea with preservatives added. No thanks I will make my own with no preservatives.

12/16/2004 8:11:16 PM

Cologne / Germany

If you want the real stuff, go get the pure worm castings (compost). You can decide later if you like to make some tea out of that :)

12/16/2004 8:42:34 PM

Ga.

Is being made in Indiania.....Saw last night on cbs,,may be able to find on cbsnews.com

12/16/2004 8:48:01 PM

Ga.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/15/eveningnews/main661329.shtml

12/16/2004 8:59:55 PM

Ga.

my bad..Is in New Jersey...

12/16/2004 9:00:45 PM

Vancouver, White Rock, Canada

The guy had to be Canadian, and he HAD to mention it, too, didn't he. Sounds good, I hope he does well. As for me, I got a garden full of worms, and they're producing just nicely for me.

12/16/2004 11:23:54 PM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

James, this young Canadian entrepreneur has hooked up with US Customs and feeds his worms a mixture confiscated "BC Bud" and good old high-test Canadian beer resulting in some real kick butt, potent worm poop!!

Your right mcpumpkin, the all Canadian's dream is to earn American dollars.

12/17/2004 1:04:39 AM

Ohio

wouldnt this be a good product for the real hot climates that dont have that many worms in the soil?Will this be like another Miracle Grow Product?Maybe?

Dog, what will the preservatives do to the plant?

12/17/2004 5:00:13 AM

Cologne / Germany

Over here pure worm compost is 12 $ for 55 lbs. They say you need to till in 1 lbs for 10 sqft.
I asked the company owner about liquid "worm poop" and he answered - as an biologist - he can´t see any use or benefit in making a pure natural product even more concentrated as long as we speak about the best naturally available balance in your soil (I hope I translated that right:)
As for anything else there comes a point where you might overstep the border without having any better results IMHO.

12/17/2004 8:52:23 AM

Oz

north shore,,thats cool.
Earning cash the legal way is always fine by me.
The more usa cash canadians make the more they spend here.
The fact that yankee greenbacks are accepted everywhere in the world is good.
B.C.bud,,,the weighmasters in Tennesee pull over most every b.c. hay truck.
A trooper here says he finds weed 60/70% of the time.

12/17/2004 10:46:29 AM

I'm with Gordon... GO UTES!

Hey all,

Did you know there is a website: www.wormdigest.org ???

Tons of articles! And it's about real garden worms, not
the computer virus kind...

Regards, Cliff

12/17/2004 11:13:57 AM

Montoursville, PA

Answer to the preservative question. It is difficult to make and ship alive bacteria. The preservative is there to prevent growth or therefore to kill the bacteria. Such a product would have limited live bacteria if any. The value would have to be in the fungi content. While a minor factor in limited use the same preservative would be working in our patchs, in proportion, to volume used.

Real natuaral untreated casts are available from which you can use directly in the soil or extract excellent tea for liquid use. If extraction is done with oxygen and a bit of food (molasses) wherein bacteria can be greatly increased for application. They must however be alive in the first place in order to increase their numbers. Alive bacteria are not easy to ship in a bottle.

12/17/2004 12:25:59 PM

Ohio

Thanks Doc, makes alot of sense.

12/17/2004 8:03:19 PM

Atlanta, Georgia

Ingo,
Where can we get it in Germany?...the worm compost that is.

12/18/2004 4:50:04 AM

Cologne / Germany

Mike, look here:
www.eisenia.de
25kg = 11.25 Euro. Shipping is included. I doubt you can find a cheaper place.

12/18/2004 5:33:59 AM

Montoursville, PA

The best deal of all worm cast deals is to build up your own patch humus to ten percent or more where in the little buggers will fight each other to live in your patch. There after you will have the worm casts right in your patch. The tea will be produced, in patch, during each rain or watering by your hands.

In addition to the casts you will have gazillion worm tunnels to permit oxygen, fertilizers and even roots to follow. There is no better fertlizer or soil conditioner known to man!

12/19/2004 10:44:30 AM

Minnesota([email protected])

docgipe,
I like you point of view, and insight.

12/19/2004 2:18:04 PM

Cologne / Germany

Dwaine is right. Too much tilling might kill many worms though. They like it "quiet", and if you have them you will see them most likely in your upper soil where they build up humus from your most recent additions (leaves, manure).
So it´s a good idea to add worms after your last frost and tilling in spring during a rainy night, next morning they´ll be all down in the soil doing their good job.

12/19/2004 8:39:31 PM

Montoursville, PA

Added to Flo's comment: True tillling does kill by chopping and smashing earthworms. It also removes the tunnels but>>>>>>>>> We need to consider the trade offs. If we are building agressively for higher humus content we need excessive oxygen and food (molasses)(fish)(kelp)to jump start and keep our bacteria fat and sassy. Tilling the top four to six inches agressively speeds up the build. In a year to three years depending on how much manure and compost elements goes in one can drop back to tilling the top inch or two. If one is very wise one might only rotatill in the fall and just enough in the spring to burry the cover crop.

My worm recovery, from whatever harm I can bring, to them, is usually up to my patch maximum support factor, by the time the first male flowers begin to open. When you see the maximum worms you think or you know it is first bloom time feed what you have. What you should have is maximum bacteria right along with maximum worms.....so feed them both and they will create the humates your plants can uptake at the rate your plant demands.

No matter what you put, on the plant, or in the soil, the bacteria must convert it, in relation, to what the plant desires. Anything at any point along the way that works against this simple but yet complex biological arrangement
is going the wrong direction.

12/26/2004 10:35:54 AM