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Baildon, Saskatchewan, Canada , EH

I will be getting 12 yards of manure next week,and I have a choice between 2 year old manure or 25 year old manure.What would you use? Old poop or newer poop? I am wondering if the old manure will be too leached out or would there be much of a difference? All coments/suggestions would be appreciated!! Thanks, Dean..............

10/7/2006 4:20:45 PM

Baildon, Saskatchewan, Canada , EH

Sorry,missed a m in comments !! LOL

10/7/2006 4:23:19 PM

Cornwall UK.(50N 5W)300ft.

25 year old manure would be a real unknown quantity and raises a lot of questions like is it really that old?
and just why is it that old??? interesting.

10/11/2006 10:27:35 AM

Puyallup, WA

Twenty five year old stuff will provide good "tilth" to your soil, but it will not have the nitrogen content.

10/11/2006 12:20:42 PM

Belgium Europe

Take both...

10/11/2006 12:59:50 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

I agree with Jos. Old stuff for tilth & Organic Matter - new stuff for NPK. The Nitrogen in manure is pretty negligible anyway. Urea is cheap.

10/11/2006 11:29:44 PM

Danville, CA (petman2@yahoo.com)

If there is only negligible nitrogen in manure, why is it so important? Just for tilth or P or K or .... I thought it added lots of N but I guess not?

10/12/2006 12:06:57 AM

Baildon, Saskatchewan, Canada , EH

I have decided to go with 6 yds of 2yr and 6 yds of 25yr manure..This way I'll be getting a little bit of both. This should help my worm count and add a little bit of npk and some ogm and tilth.Thanks for all the suggestions......Dean.

10/12/2006 12:40:42 AM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Eric,

Fresh manure does have a fair amount of N. But as manure decays, that N is consumed by bacteria during decomposition. So much so that some manure compost piles cool off early because they "run out of gas". Gas in this case is N. The easiest way to supply N is through greens. But green is hard to come by in the winter so Urea is often used by professional composers who maintain piles big enough to cook in the cold.

Still more N is lost to volatilizing & leaching.

http://www.gov.mb.ca/agriculture/soilwater/manure/fdb01s03.html

It is ironic that despite often extreme manure additions, most growers resort to small amounts of soluble N to jump start cool soils early. Then we find ourselves adding fish & other Nitrogen containing organics & synthetics all summer long anyway.

10/12/2006 7:44:22 AM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

I get nervous when fresh manure is late winter or spring applied & tilled in. The manure may not atart releasing N until late May or early June. The end result to the N flush can be a lack of females &/or high abort rate.

10/12/2006 7:46:56 AM

Mocksville, NC

2 year old come on, the worms wont be attracted by 25 year old they have been there, and i bet there gone now they have ate and i bet are gone check for your self with a pitch fork turn some over if you can yu'll see. They prb crawled over to the 2 year old now. i had a bait farm, thats the only reason i know.

10/14/2006 6:38:33 AM

Cologne Brescia Italy

Steve, you put the urea in the your patch in the fall, or in the spring?
thanks
Sergio

10/14/2006 12:33:58 PM

Thornhill, Ontario, Canada

I must be totally ignorant. But, why would anybody have manure sitting around for 25 years? Wouldn't somebody have had plenty of opportunity to use it by now?

10/14/2006 1:38:38 PM

Danville, CA (petman2@yahoo.com)

Better start haulin' so can get the crap on before late winter. Want to have it on before end of October and then a cover crop to boot. Thanks Steve

10/15/2006 12:17:13 AM

Mocksville, NC

lol at crammed- but i'm saving it! i think i seen it on the riply'es beleve or not lol

10/15/2006 8:01:34 AM

Baildon, Saskatchewan, Canada , EH

crammed; this old manure is from a huge livestock yard where there is a massive amount of manure!! These guys do not have enough time to be worrying about getting rid of manure,its just stock piled and has been there for years.

10/16/2006 10:19:48 AM