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President - GPC

Heard some chat about Humic Acid.....interested in learning more. Intervals, concentration, benefits, good for all garden veggies?? Please Advise......Gettin ready to till the garden......Thanks for ya'lls help

4/21/2006 9:39:16 AM

Montoursville, PA

How big is the garden? I have Fertrell's and with a very gentle hand I use one half ounce with one of my early tea applications and another half ounce mid season. That is on about one thousand square feet.

....Said the simplest way humic acid is one step beyond humus, in the breakdown, of organic material. There are several sources that give slightly different application rates but you do not need much, of any one's humic acid.

For my wife's house plants I use two or three drops per gallon, of water once, in the spring, of each year. The gardenia thrives on it. However the first year I over did the application and the gardenia dropped it's flowers and acted as if I had used, to much nitrogen base material, on it. It took a whole year, to leach, or use one slight over application.

4/21/2006 7:36:39 PM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

Drammatic Fish and Kelp With "E" already has the humic acid added

4/21/2006 9:31:48 PM

Montoursville, PA

It is combination packages that can get us messed up because the organic products do not easily work out or leach through when we get, to much, in our patches. There is always a question, of how much, of what, is to much.

Go looking, for doubling up because, of combination packages, in the trace mineral area also. More and more seem, to be added as a basic product inhancement. So it then becomes easy, to all of a sudden have two or three times what might have been a good application, of trace minerals.

Just because a product is mineral or organic does not mean it can be dumpped on with no consideration, for the total each year as well as a combination, of three years additions.

4/23/2006 9:10:55 AM

West By God Virginia

Just buy some Dunkel's! LOL It has Fulvic acid which is the most plant active of the humates.

4/23/2006 9:30:56 AM

President - GPC

Punkin site is 400 Sq ft. garden area is 1200 sq ft. Stuff sure is sticky. Arent we talking drops? How often would one dose? Foliar or ground level. Im all full of ?'s ehh?
please advise

4/24/2006 8:36:36 AM

Midwest

Apply to the patch in small quantities, first before planting, then continue in very small doses throughout the season. Follow the recommended rate on the bottle but adjust for size of your patch. It needs to get into the root zone so maybe you want to apply with a hose-end sprayer to the plant area only. Does the bottle tell you the application rate?

4/25/2006 1:13:42 PM

President - GPC

1 pint per acre. Still doing the math on this one .

5/2/2006 2:23:24 PM

President - GPC

Guess I got 3.176 TSP per 400 sq ft area if I did my math right......

14520 Sq ft per acre. 115.29 teaspoons per pint. I have 400 sq feet of garden. 400 sq ft goes into once acre 36.3 times. 115.29tsp divided by 36.3= 3.176 tsp per 400 sq ft. My head hurts.

5/2/2006 2:30:09 PM

Follansbee, Wv

Roughly 43000 sq ft per acre (yes, I know it's 43560, but it's close enough).

16 oz (1 pint) per 43000 sq ft
0.37 oz per 1000 sq ft
2 table spoons to an oz, 3 teaspoons to a tablespoon

so 0.37 (just a hair over a third of an oz) per 1000 sq feet is about 2 teaspoons.

For 400 sq ft, just less than one teaspoon.

5/2/2006 2:36:18 PM

Follansbee, Wv

Your math is off :)

5/2/2006 2:37:25 PM

Follansbee, Wv

Also, there are 96 teaspoons to a pint, not 115.29.

5/2/2006 2:40:07 PM

Colorado

Wiz, Monty,

I wish I would have read this before I "did the math"
and applied 2.5 tablespoons per gallon :<) Wiz maybe
it's a result of that JFK High school math that was
forced on both of us :<)

5/2/2006 3:55:17 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

I don't believe that a slight over-application of Humic Acid to the soil is going to harm anything.

5/2/2006 6:14:53 PM

Midwest

Can fulvic acid be used during germination? I used a drop in my hydrogen peroxide.
Thanks,
Greg

5/2/2006 11:11:03 PM

President - GPC

Yo MontyJ,
Thanks for settin me straight, I knew someone would.... :)
. Next question- How does one get this oil product thru a water system without clogging everything up with the proper dispersion rate? Dilute with soap?

5/3/2006 9:51:27 AM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

Something is wrong if your humic acid is an oil..Mine is a soluble liquid.

5/3/2006 10:16:10 AM

President - GPC

Solution appears as thick as oil, seems to want to clog my sprayer. I have to remove the screen and spray with a bigger orifice which seems to be contraditory to the application rates. Was wondering what the secret is on this stuff.

5/5/2006 12:50:59 PM

Midwest

In answer to the question about using fulvic acid during germination. I had one seed out of 4 germinate with just a drop of fulvic acid in hydrogen peroxide. With water alone, I had 100% germination.

5/16/2006 1:17:17 PM

Montoursville, PA

DaWiz.........I have had problems spraying too because of the solids content, of humic acid. Go to a contractor's rental center and purchase whatever you need, to install a nozzle that passes 30% solids. This type nozzle is used by concrete contractors, to spray heavy mixes, of curing materials. It will pass any humic acid I have used or seen.
It also will pass most solids found in various compost or manure tea easily. In addition it will not squeeze your biology or bash them to death due to high pressure application. This suggestion cost me about fifty bucks but it is the only way, to solve a number of slurry mixes you may be using. Take your wand with you when you go hunting. They do this for contractors all the time. On a spray tank with wand and nozzle designed to do this will cost you three times as much and not be any better. Most do not rent this equipment because the customer does not clean up the equipment and they lose big time labor cleaning up the mess.

6/26/2006 3:08:03 PM