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St. George, Utah

Pretty self explanatory. I'm having a rough time finding decent seeds that won't break the bank and upset the wife.
I managed to get some classic Atlantic Giant seeds this spring and have a lovely little vine growing. But I can't help but fear that lousy genetics will prevent me from growing to my maximum potential.
Anyhow, I'm hoping that I can hunt down some better seeds for spring 2016.
Let me know if you can help out.
Thank you for your consideration.

6/9/2015 3:20:54 AM

Germany

Why the heck does this seed have to come from an orange 1700lb+ pumpkin? You will never get the same pumpkin out of that seed, you will get a plant which produces a pumpkin that might exhibit features of that pumpkin OR of the pumpkin that grew on the pollinator plant OR both OR different.
Check out the 1317 Clementz (1495 Stelts x 2009 Wallace), it was not a 1700+ fruit, but the seed combines genetics of the plant which grew that pretty big orange fruit and of a plant which has a good mix of 2009 Wallace genetics, and eventually the 1317 Clements seed produced an orange 1900+ pounder (1947.5 Clementz).
The 1530 Gehweiler (1770 Lieber x 2009 Wallace), the 359 Foss (1048 Engel x 2009 Wallace) and some other crosses could be interesting for you as well, even though the seeds don´t come from orange 1700+ pounders.

6/9/2015 5:29:34 AM

Mission Viejo, CA

1738 Barron is a nice Orange, not vivid Orange but a great seed with super genes. 1625.5 D. Gantner would also be a a fine choice.

6/9/2015 11:56:28 AM

St. George, Utah

Thanks for the tips and clarification. Obviously I'm new to the pumpkin growing hobby.
I will check those out. Where is the best place to obtain these seeds?

6/9/2015 12:19:58 PM

St. George, Utah

Pumpking, I found your recommendations on the WCG site. The 1530 Gehweiler is definitely more in my price range.

KC Kevin, I was not able to find your recommendations for seed. Can you point me in the right direction?

6/9/2015 12:29:59 PM

Germany

Plantfreak1, there are so many seeds which are available for a stamped self-addressed return bubble envelope, many growers will be happy to send you some seeds i you promise to plant them (the next season). Many of those growers are available here on BP, so if you are looking for some seeds in particular, you can either ask for growers details (or for that seed) or you could try to use the site search option of BP to search for the name of the grower, sometimes you can find their email address. For example, if you are looking for the above mentioned 359 Foss seed, and if you find out that the name of the grower is Bill Foss, then you can use the site search here on BP to look for Bill Foss, and you will, for example, find this site here (where you can see his email address).

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/MsgBoard/ViewThread.asp?b=33&p=524097

6/9/2015 12:54:33 PM

Germany

Try to find out which seeds you are interested in, and then try to contact some growers, find out how friendly the BP community is.

6/9/2015 12:55:30 PM

South Hero, VT

Listen to the King. Keep track of orange 1700+ lb pumpkins this fall in diary pics, and then get in touch with the clubs in the growers' area for addresses. Most growers don't sell their seeds, they give them away!

PS: Just because a pumpkin is orange doesn't mean the offspring will be orange.

Sorry if I'm repeating Pumpking.

6/9/2015 1:47:32 PM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

It really gets my goat when growers claim they need seed from a 1700lb pumpkin. My advice work on your soil, learn all the genetics and techniques to growing these. An expensive seed is not going to give you any better results than a free seed.

6/9/2015 1:58:52 PM

St. George, Utah

Thanks for the advice guys.

I guess what my post should say is, "I want to grow a 1700lb orange pumpkin".

I'll keep my eye out for seeds. Thanks again everyone.

6/9/2015 2:33:00 PM

Germany

Plantfreak1, Linus Van Pelt is right, there´s more (much more) than just the genetics in a pumpkin seed, soil, water, timing, pruning patterns etc. are also very important things. The combination of these things is as important as the combination of vitamins and minerals in your diet...consider the genetics in a pumpkin seed as vitamin C...eat more and more vitamin C rich food, it could help, but it won´t help as long as your problems arise from the lack of vitamin D, magnesium etc. (that said, you should definitely gather as much as possible info here on BP as you can, then you will have a much better start into your next pumpkin season than if you just searched for the perfect seed (but a great seed is still one of the components of the final mixture).

Hint1: Look at Linus Van Pelt´s location...looks like an email addy, doesn´t it? That´s an example of how you can easily find contact details of some growers.
Hint2: Check out his diaries from the last couple of years, there could be interesting posts in there.
Hint3: Even if his brief comment here seems to sound a bit rough, he is absolutely right and there are many of his comments here on the message board which contain helpful info for new growers.

6/9/2015 2:37:00 PM

Germany

Hint4 (just discovered it right now): Check out the latest entry in the "New Growers Forum" (the thread started by Porkchop) on the message board. Follow his advice.

6/9/2015 2:41:16 PM

Germany

In addition to what you can read on the message board (where there´s plenty of good info, but scattered across many many threads) you should read this beginners guide

http://how2growags.blogspot.de/p/blog-page_20.html

It will give you helpful info for all stages throughout a pumpkin season (which starts with patch prep already half a year before you even think of starting your pumpkin seed).

6/10/2015 3:47:44 AM

Bethlehem CT

Plantfreak1, Where did you get your Atlantic Giant seeds that you are growing this year? If it is from a packet of seed from a commercial seed company you are right. The genetics are different. With that being said if you care for that plant of yours and follow the techniques that we giant pumpkin growers are using, I see no reason why you can't grow a 500 pound pumpkin this year. You may surprise yourself with how big it grows.

6/10/2015 7:10:26 AM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

I am always to the point, which is mistaken for rough. They say if you don't want to know the truth. Don't ask me

6/10/2015 7:38:51 AM